Feb. 26, 2025

Two Bulls in One Pen: Marquez vs. Bagnaia Showdown!

Two Bulls in One Pen: Marquez vs. Bagnaia Showdown!
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Season 1

The 2025 MotoGP season is almost upon us! We're diving into the thrilling prospects that this new season has to offer, focusing on rivalries, technological changes, and our predictions for the opening race. With the return of stars like Marquez and Bagnaia, it’s shaping up to be an unforgettable season filled with potential upsets and greater challenges.

• Discussion about the excitement surrounding the MotoGP season opener 
• Overview of key riders and teams to watch in 2025 
• Exploration of Yamaha’s performance expectations for the new season 
• Insight into Ducati's super team dynamics and how it may impact outcomes 
• Predictions for the first race and major competitors 
• The landscape of Moto2 and Moto3 and rising talents 
• Engagement with listeners through our upcoming fantasy league 
• Recap of the episode’s highlights and listener reminders 


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00:00 - Introducing the Grand Prix Project

02:00 - MotoGP Season Preview for 2025

10:00 - Yamaha's Performance and Expectations

20:00 - Ducati's Power Play: Marquez and Bagnaia

30:00 - Dark Horses and Surprises for the Season

42:00 - Predictions for the Opening Race

50:00 - The Big Changes in the Moto2 and Moto3 Scenes

58:00 - Upcoming Fantasy League and Community Engagement

01:00:00 - Wrap

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Welcome to the Grand Prix Project with me, your host Andre and the big bro.

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Thanos876,.

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as usual, yes we'll be discussing, discussing MotoGP.

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Motogp is two days away at your time of listening.

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We're actually recording on Sunday.

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So, yeah, motogp starts in two days.

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I'm exciting, I'm exciting, excited, I'm excited.

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You see, that's how excited I am.

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Right, I'm doing all the excites.

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Excited, exciting, excite.

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Yeah, when motorsports season comes around, it makes me mix my words up, right.

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It makes me speak in in.

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It makes me speak in.

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It makes me speak in puzzles, right, that's how excited I am for motorsports when it comes around.

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So, f1, motor gp, real super bikes, y'all we're in motorsports season, people, and we're in for a hell of a ride in 2025, would you agree?

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Definitely, I think we're in for a great ride like.

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It's probably going to be one of the best seasons for both motor gp, formula one and also world superbike.

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I know we haven't touched in real superbike as much.

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We're going to get there, beard us, but I think we're in for great seasons, a great season.

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So, yeah, big bro, motogp starts.

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Buriram, the Thai GP.

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It's the first time MotoGP, I wonder if the very few times that MotoGP hasn't started in Qatar.

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Yeah, so they did the MotoGP launch, which was similar to F175 F1 launch.

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Motogp did theirs in Thailand, same venue.

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So they basically stayed there, and now they're about to kickstart the season.

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So, yeah, what are you looking forward to?

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So, yeah, what are you looking forward to?

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you know we touched on it in our first, in our pilot episode.

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I think for me is you know I'm, you know me, I'm a five year Quattro Yamaha fan.

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So I want to.

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My view mainly would be seeing what these guys get up to.

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You know, have they been able to turn the corner from the previous two years where they've been nowhere?

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Have the concessions that they were given started to be a fruit?

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From what we saw in the first test in sepang, the yama looked good.

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It definitely.

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It wasn't a ferrari I'm not saying ferrari, it wasn't, uh, the kati beta but you think, based on its performance there, you'd probably say it was the second best bike in that whole entire sipang test.

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It wasn't so good around this track which they're going to be racing at this weekend.

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So it's very likely that that test performance might translate over into the race and they probably don't look that good.

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But going forward for the rest of the season they'd definitely be there.

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They might be able to score some podiums on merit and you know, if the chips fall in their favor they probably could score a lucky win here or there, but the win is definitely a long shot.

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The podiums, it's a possibility, but I think the more interesting aspect of the season will be the red team, the lenovo ducati racing team.

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How will the marquez pickle partnership fear?

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Will it be?

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Could it be?

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Or version of the Nico Rosberg Louis Hamilton pairing?

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Yeah, that's very possible.

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It's very possible because in that team you've got two, as I say, two bulls in one pen, and you can't have two bulls ruling one pen.

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There's going to be a clash of personalities and someone's going to want to be, you know, the top bull in that pen.

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So it's going to be interesting.

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How will Jorge Martin fear on their prayer, which he basically didn't test because of his accident?

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Will Bezzecchi step up and perform in his place and deliver?

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I don't know.

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This year's motor GP season is going to be an interesting one and I think most of the 90% of the interest I just said, 99.9% of the interest will be on the super team on the super team Mark vs Pe it let's go racing, all right, and um, yeah, it's, that's definitely what most people are looking forward to, right?

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um, as you said, the season starts and it starts on friday.

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Yeah, first green light.

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You know, track goes green, light goes green.

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Um, yeah, then it's party time, okay, um, I'm very, when you, when you mention um, when you, when you mention um, yama, right, I was gonna say you, when you said may, they might get a win, I was gonna say, you know, maybe in a wet race.

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But then I remember that one of the greatest wet race riders actually on a ducati, true, so he kind of took that away, he took that sting away, right?

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Yeah, but we've seen that same great race rider make mistakes in the wet as well, but we're not going to do that because, at the end of the day, what's his strike rate?

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Yeah, he has a high strike rate Percentage in the 90s.

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Yeah, the 90s yeah, but again it's not 100%.

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So yeah, nothing is 100% right?

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Nothing is 100%, but if you're talking about wet weather, prowess.

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Here's two riders mark and jack miller.

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Yeah, and he's on a Ducati.

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No, he's on a Yamaha so I was going to say they might get a win and I would say in a wet race maybe Jack's got a chance on the Yamaha, maybe that's going to be their chance, but you never know.

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That's the thing that I love about MotoGP you never know.

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You know they say it in football, but I'm going to say it in MotoGP on any given Sunday.

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You never know.

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You know they say it in football, but I'm gonna say motor gp on any given sunday.

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You, you never know, right?

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So my thing is, what I'm looking at is how comfortable is mark going to be on that ducati ride?

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Because the thing that's scary, right, if he's super comfortable where he's not on the edge, where he's not biting the screen to get this.

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It's.

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If the performance comes easily to him, where he doesn't look like he's overriding the bike, then it's going to be a problem for Pekka for the rest of the year.

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And then, at the same time, I wantko to make.

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I want it to be a fight.

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I want it to be a fight, well, yeah, I want, I want it to be gladiator-like, right.

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I want it to be just a great season with peko, with Pecco.

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Mark Martin I want Martin to come to the fort, right.

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I want Bezzecchi to come to the fort.

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He did well in the program test.

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I want Alex Marcus to be consistent over the whole entire season, right.

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I want Digia.

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That's Digia and Antonio.

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I want him to come back and recover fast enough so he could perform.

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I just want a great season.

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Yeah, I think that's what we all want.

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Definitely, it's what we ask for every single year and most years.

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You got that last year.

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We definitely got that.

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Granted, um Peke probably should Perica should have won that championship, but, you know, those mistakes that he made in the sprint races pretty much cost him.

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And again, with having Mark in the team, you can't make mistakes now because you're going to be punished for your mistakes, and that's what happened to him last year.

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So this year he's going to have to come out Pekka that is and he's going to have to be more precise.

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He's going to have to be precise and, at the same time, be more aggressive with his riding, be more forceful.

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You know, because we know what mark brings to the table.

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Mark is not only he's one of the best, he's also an opportunist.

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If he sees an opportunity to overtake or do something, he's going to do it.

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He's not going to sit back and just, you know, wait for some things to fall in his lap.

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He's gonna make things happen himself.

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So pekka is gonna be in for a rough ride.

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And you know we in the first part we talked about is this how will um gg deal with this dynamic because I think I said it personally.

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I think signing mark was probably a mistake because again you're putting two alpha males in the same team and that's going to create animosity.

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How, how are you going to deal with that where that arises?

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You?

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you keep saying that, though, but I still disagree.

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To say signing one of the greatest motorcyclists ever, racer ever, is a mistake.

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It doesn't make any sense, especially when your top guy lost a championship to a satellite team.

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It does not make any sense yeah, but I said it's a mistake in the sense of the dynamic it creates within the team.

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You're you're putting two combustible elements together.

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It only needs a spark for it to explode.

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I don't think they're too combustible.

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If it was martin and mark, that would be combustible I, I don't know because again, um, we've heard conversations between Peko and Mark before.

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Peko has been asked many times who he'd rather his teammates be and I think at one point he went Bastiani or Martin.

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He never considered Mark.

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Which makes sense.

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Why would you want Mark as your teammate?

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That's what I'm saying.

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So having Mark come in, so he's against it, he's somewhat against Mark coming into the team.

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So bringing in Mark into the team to him can be seen as a slap in the face, not when you just lost a chip to a satellite team.

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Yeah, but again, that satellite team isn't your standard satellite team, is it?

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Yeah?

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you're right.

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However, you and I know this works right, it doesn't matter if it's in a different color, right?

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Well, it does matter.

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If you're in the red team, we don't care if you got the identical bike next door in a different color.

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You're in this red team for a reason.

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There's a reason why there's a factory team and there's a reason there's a team where we, where we lease the bike to yeah, but again, you're not leasing an old spec bike.

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He didn't lose the championship to an older spec bike, did he?

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He lost it to somebody.

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Yeah, it doesn't matter, he lost it to somebody.

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Right and the same specification bikers you know.

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Let me ask you do you know what the big difference is between a fracture team and a satellite team?

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Engineers, so you have more people going over your data right.

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So it means that you can make decisions faster.

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Everything about a fracture team is you could get things done quicker.

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There's more people but it depends on what.

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It depends on what the contract is, because um martin got the same support as the factory um ducati riders yeah, apart from money there's a lot more things.

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There's a reason why which is why I'm saying there's a lot more thing as to which is the reason why he wants to go to the factory.

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If that was as as we think or as you're putting it, he would have stayed at Primark.

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It wouldn't have made any difference.

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Yeah, because if he went to the factory team obviously it's more incentives for him financially.

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Not only that, because he has more technicians right, he has more engineers, which helps to just make things run smoothly.

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There's more information that they could go through compared to like a Pramac right.

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Ultimately, what it came down to.

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Pramac has the same information that about bike yeah, but you have less people to go through it.

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Remember there's a lot of data that comes off these bikes okay, yeah, but okay, you have less people to go through it.

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But is it the quantity of people going through it or is the quality of information you're extracting from the data.

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It's both.

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It's both Because if that was the case, it would be okay for everyone to get a fully specced factory bike in a satellite.

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There's performance to gain in a in a factory team yeah, because again you have, you have the fracture bike.

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You're gonna, you're gonna get the first set of upgrades etc.

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first, exactly so the fact that, yeah, pekka lost the title to a damn good rider, a rider who figured it out last year.

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Yeah riding this exact same spec bike.

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So that's what I'm saying to you.

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The mistakes that Pekka made last year, the factory team wasn't expecting those.

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They're looking at it like what.

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These are mistakes that you made when you were in the Pramac team.

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Now you're in our factory team.

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You already won two championships and you're still making these mistakes um, I mean, I don't know.

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I don't think it had anything to do with him making mistakes while they signed Mark, as you you mentioned.

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Mark was signed because Gigi always wanted to sign Mark.

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That's part of it, but you still got to look at Peko.

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Peko has a lot of mistakes in him and they notice.

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But when you say a lot of mistakes, like how much is a lot of mistakes?

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He lost the championship by what?

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10 points.

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How many times did he crash?

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last year I don't know the numbers, maybe five or six times he crashed.

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All right, check those numbers again.

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And he crashed the year before.

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Right, he crashed.

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Yeah, he made a lot of mistakes the year before too so that's no.

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I think the year before he won that championship pretty comfortable because martin was crashing also so then how can you then use that against him?

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because that's what I'm saying to you.

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When you, big bro, you know this when you're a factory rider, there's a certain thing that you're not.

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You're not expect you could have a crash here and there.

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You're not expecting to have as many crashes as pekka had last year as a factory, two times world champion, three times world champion if we factor in motor too but if that but is that limited?

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just being a factory rider or in general, you shouldn't be crashing the amount of time you crash.

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Because, again Mark, how many times did Mark crash last year?

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Mark crashed not a lot in races, he crashed in qualifying a lot.

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He crashed a few races last year.

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Not as much as Pecco did.

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That's what I'm saying to you.

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If you look at Mark when Mark is a championship contender, you, if you look at mark when mark is a championship contender, he really crashes a bike in a race.

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That's the difference, and ducati knows this, they know that him.

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If we could get him a bike that works, there's a possibility.

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That's what.

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That's what's going to be my next point.

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The thing that pekka has to be careful of at all costs mark too, because it's not like pekka, ain't no slouch.

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Mark is older, right, so mark has certain disadvantages too, but if I'm basing it off track record, because mark is riding at a high level, we cannot deny that right as though.

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As to pekka, yeah, but I'm looking at where mark is.

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Mark is over 30.

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Mark is closer to the end of his career, but he's still riding at a high level.

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30.

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Mark is closer to the end of his career, but he's still riding at a high level.

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The thing that Peko has to be careful of, right, if you make Mark slips and get a 25, 30 point jump on him, he's in trouble.

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I mean, if he gets that big a lead he's not going to win the championship.

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Mark pretty much is going to cruise to win the championship.

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But my argument with this is right there was no urgency to sign mark because again, with the exception of last year, pekka has proven that he can win you championships and he also proved he could lose you want to?

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okay, but he has won you more than he has lost, so the thing is right and you're right, but I still cannot get the idea as to why Ducati, the best bike, wouldn't sign the best rider on the grid.

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It does not make any sense when he's still at a high level.

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Yeah, but again, how does it make them any different whether to sign him or not?

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Because you still would win the championship with peko.

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So let me ask you this, right?

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No, at that point, yeah, you would think, until he lost it last year, right?

00:18:31.760 --> 00:18:32.903
So that's what I'm saying to you.

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These guys you gotta remember.

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Right, these guys are seeing things that we're not seeing, right?

00:18:36.804 --> 00:18:39.641
They don't just get up and sign mark because he's the number.

00:18:39.641 --> 00:18:51.794
They sign him for a reason and, whatever you may find out later on, you may not be seeing, because, well, why would they sign him when they've got peko, they're probably saying you know what he won us two chips.

00:18:53.039 --> 00:19:10.388
However, there's still certain things that we we're a bit skeptical about we still feel like if we stuff like if we get a performing quattro and a yama, that works yeah, but but didn't pekka be because the yama didn't work.

00:19:11.352 --> 00:19:17.929
The yama just didn't work and it brought back 80 something points okay, so does what does that tell you about the quality of pekka it?

00:19:18.009 --> 00:19:25.761
tells me that if quattro had a great bike that he could compete with, probably would have won that championship okay, I wasn't.

00:19:25.922 --> 00:19:28.288
Wasn't that pecker's what second year on the ducati.

00:19:28.848 --> 00:19:34.770
No, but remember he was at primark, you mean on the factory and the factory yeah right, that was the second year on the factory bike.

00:19:35.231 --> 00:19:38.003
Yeah, look I.

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The thing I'm trying here is why I I find the whole sign-in thing confusing.

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I'd understand if there was a situation where the Ducati was being challenged every week by another brand of bike.

00:19:57.290 --> 00:20:01.992
It's not I think when you look at sport, you look at sport in a comfortable way.

00:20:01.992 --> 00:20:02.920
I don't look at sport comfortably.

00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:03.743
No, no, no, I'm not no.

00:20:03.743 --> 00:20:12.432
But this is Because let me ask you this why would you have a eight-time world champion who's performing at the high level right somewhere else, when you could have him in your team?

00:20:13.221 --> 00:20:22.367
but having how does how does him having it you have him in your team make your team any different to you having pekka, who's already a champion?

00:20:22.548 --> 00:20:23.593
we are yet to find out.

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Right, we are yet to find out.

00:20:25.842 --> 00:20:35.675
But the best always wants the best, and I still cannot understand how people object to mark being on the ducati look, I'm, look, I understand what you want.

00:20:35.675 --> 00:20:37.663
You want, you want comfort, you want it to be safe.

00:20:37.702 --> 00:20:38.846
No, but that's.

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But that's the thing you also have to factor as a, as a leader.

00:20:42.900 --> 00:20:44.383
You also have to take that into consideration.

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How will this dynamic affect the team?

00:20:45.585 --> 00:20:46.438
You have to factor as a, as a leader, you also have to take that into consideration.

00:20:46.438 --> 00:20:48.115
How will this dynamic affect the team?

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You have to for consider we're yet to.

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We're yet to see that, but what we do know.

00:20:52.560 --> 00:20:56.411
So let me ask you how is it different from from from from ferrari signing lewis?

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Why go for 40 year old lewis hamilton?

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because lewis is at the tail end of his career.

00:21:01.066 --> 00:21:01.748
Le is not.

00:21:01.748 --> 00:21:05.773
You don't expect a Lewis to come in and answer.

00:21:05.773 --> 00:21:07.502
Uh, charles, who is what?

00:21:07.663 --> 00:21:08.586
are you really gonna say that?

00:21:08.586 --> 00:21:10.875
Are you really gonna say that?

00:21:10.875 --> 00:21:12.259
What do you really believe that?

00:21:12.259 --> 00:21:13.743
Believe what?

00:21:13.743 --> 00:21:22.190
I'm sure we've had conversation and you said that Lewis is going to Ferrari to win yeah, of course he's going there to win, that's his intention and why do you think?

00:21:22.190 --> 00:21:24.222
And why do you think Ferrari signed Lewis Hamilton?

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was it because that's a different, that's a different thing.

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You can't compare them.

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And this is why you can't compare them because, again, in formula one, ferrari is not the dominant team.

00:21:35.851 --> 00:21:38.560
It's not the dominant team.

00:21:38.560 --> 00:21:42.105
You have other teams out there that can win the championship.

00:21:42.105 --> 00:21:45.049
We saw that last year in moto gp.

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The last non-dukati champion was fabio.

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So after mark won his, it was then the suzuki with um joan mir, joan mir.

00:22:01.155 --> 00:22:06.011
Then the next one was the next non-Ducati was Fabio.

00:22:06.011 --> 00:22:10.259
So Ducati has been the team they've won the last three championships.

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Right, because Fabio won his.

00:22:11.866 --> 00:22:14.939
Fabio won his championship in 2021.

00:22:14.939 --> 00:22:18.092
Peca did back to back.

00:22:18.807 --> 00:22:32.493
Yeah, so Peca did back to back in 22 and 23 so let me actually so let me finish so in that that that respect, there's no other bike out there that can challenge the ducati.

00:22:32.554 --> 00:22:36.465
It's clearly, it's clearly the best bike and I like where you're going with that.

00:22:36.465 --> 00:22:38.820
So let me ask you this so where should have mark gone?

00:22:38.820 --> 00:22:39.241
Where?

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What do you think?

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Where do you think mark should be?

00:22:41.426 --> 00:22:47.950
I'm not arguing against him saying actually where do you think he should be, if you think it's a bad sign, where you think Mark should be?

00:22:47.950 --> 00:22:48.972
I'm not arguing against him, no, I'm asking him?

00:22:48.992 --> 00:22:49.634
Where do you think he should be?

00:22:49.634 --> 00:22:51.579
If you think it's a bad signing, where do you think I never said it was a bad signing.

00:22:51.579 --> 00:22:55.009
I said I don't like the signing because it's going to create a problem within the team.

00:22:56.413 --> 00:22:56.653
Okay.

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And the need, the necessity to sign Mark.

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I don't see where it was, because, again, you have someone who won you back-to-back chip, who has the capability was displayed.

00:23:09.746 --> 00:23:11.849
He has the capability to win you a chance.

00:23:11.849 --> 00:23:14.082
So bringing in mark would only.

00:23:14.082 --> 00:23:18.310
I'd say, bring mark in if there was clear evidence.

00:23:18.310 --> 00:23:40.500
Pekka couldn't win your championship if you had given hold on, if you had given pekka that bike for the last three years and he has failed to win your championship in those three years and you know you've got the best bike, then I'd understand, yeah, the logic bringing mark in because you're not delivering what you're supposed to be delivering, but he has delivered two championships and, as I was going to say, he lost one right, so we shouldn't have lost.

00:23:40.520 --> 00:23:46.613
So let me ask you this so mark was already in ducati, stable, right, yes.

00:23:46.613 --> 00:23:50.148
So let me ask so what would have been the solution?

00:23:50.148 --> 00:23:54.241
Sign martin, right, that way you think that would have.

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Yeah, I think martin deserved to see it, because martin was in the hold on, because martin, was right, was on the satellite ducati.

00:24:02.146 --> 00:24:06.775
Granted, he was on the same spec, but he was performing just as well.

00:24:06.775 --> 00:24:08.131
So why, you know?

00:24:08.131 --> 00:24:09.160
Okay, good point.

00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.424
He should have.

00:24:10.424 --> 00:24:14.775
In actuality, he should have been rewarded with that factory seat.

00:24:14.775 --> 00:24:22.070
Good point Because he has displayed that he did everything he needed to do to get that factory seat Cool, get it.

00:24:22.070 --> 00:24:23.826
But again, like you said, gg wanted Mark.

00:24:23.826 --> 00:24:25.029
Okay, and I get that factious seat Cool.

00:24:25.049 --> 00:24:26.394
But again, like you said Gigi wanted Mark.

00:24:26.394 --> 00:24:27.779
Okay, and I get that You're right.

00:24:27.779 --> 00:24:28.928
And it's not.

00:24:28.928 --> 00:24:32.709
And it's not, it's not down to performance, so where would Mark go?

00:24:32.730 --> 00:24:33.290
Gigi hold on.

00:24:33.290 --> 00:24:38.007
Gigi didn't want Mark based on performance, he just wanted to have Mark in his team.

00:24:38.488 --> 00:24:39.029
Are you crazy?

00:24:39.029 --> 00:24:41.423
What do you mean by he by didn't want Mark Basin performance?

00:24:42.405 --> 00:24:43.488
Because what difference?

00:24:43.708 --> 00:24:52.067
having Mark in the team makes the performance of the team, Like what we said in the first part, because they're seeing stuff that makes him go wow.

00:24:52.067 --> 00:24:59.165
They're seeing stuff that probably say, hey, if he was on this bike he would have probably dog walked Martin and Pecco.

00:24:59.165 --> 00:25:01.586
Wow, that's why they're signing him.

00:25:01.586 --> 00:25:06.585
So let me ask you this so okay, let's go your route, Keep Pecco, sign Martin.

00:25:06.585 --> 00:25:10.386
Where does Mark go, as he's already in the Ducati camp?

00:25:10.386 --> 00:25:11.984
Go to Primax on a fracture?

00:25:12.005 --> 00:25:12.145
bike.

00:25:12.145 --> 00:25:16.330
Well, that was the actual agreement before wasn't it?

00:25:16.701 --> 00:25:19.830
Like I said, because I don't want to repeat what we did the last time.

00:25:19.830 --> 00:25:29.930
Okay, so Martin goes to the fracture team, pecco stays, mark goes to Primark on the well, what seems like the 24.9, right.

00:25:30.672 --> 00:25:30.912
Uh-huh.

00:25:32.941 --> 00:25:36.750
And, as I said, if you're seeing data that makes them feel like we need to sign him and they don't.

00:25:36.750 --> 00:25:42.007
And then he goes to Primark and I said this last week, so I'm going to move on because I don't want to repeat what we said last week.

00:25:42.007 --> 00:25:44.827
Now he goes to Primark on the bike.

00:25:44.827 --> 00:25:50.967
They know they are the data that shows that he's probably going to dominate right, hypothetically speaking.

00:25:50.967 --> 00:25:52.431
Just say they see data, I say he's going to dominate.

00:25:52.431 --> 00:25:54.842
We put him over primack once again.

00:25:54.882 --> 00:26:04.907
The primack team beats the ducati lenovo team again well, the simple solution that to that, then, is don't give him one of the current spec bikes, then why would you have the eight-time world champion and not give him?

00:26:05.148 --> 00:26:06.210
what are you talking about?

00:26:06.410 --> 00:26:07.692
why would you have?

00:26:07.692 --> 00:26:09.375
Why would you have the last?

00:26:09.375 --> 00:26:11.449
He was an eight-time champion last year, was he not?

00:26:11.931 --> 00:26:15.527
yeah, but because there was contracts involved with that and the beer mining was in the vicinity.

00:26:15.527 --> 00:26:25.088
You know that, mark, when he went to grassini right he did the one-year contract right, because he didn't want to go out of sync right, so he did one year and that's what grassini had.

00:26:25.088 --> 00:26:34.886
Their contract was with old bikes right, so he did that deal because, let's say, he already had dreams of riding the factory bike right.

00:26:34.886 --> 00:26:47.593
So you're telling me that the way that you wanted to go once again, you want the easy route is for ducati to have martin and Pecco and not give Mark the best thing, not give him the best bike.

00:26:47.593 --> 00:26:48.914
Why would you do that?

00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:49.381
Why would?

00:26:49.401 --> 00:26:53.988
you have a guy that's still in his prime, that's still riding at a high level and dogging with a bike that isn't working.

00:26:53.988 --> 00:26:55.586
That does not make any sense in the sport.

00:26:57.123 --> 00:27:02.901
But again, the point of the team principle is you're supposed to manage your team, what?

00:27:02.921 --> 00:27:04.145
do you want for your money?

00:27:04.145 --> 00:27:07.284
This is a question.

00:27:07.284 --> 00:27:07.865
What do I want as a fan?

00:27:07.865 --> 00:27:08.226
I'm paying.

00:27:08.246 --> 00:27:11.031
I'm paying money, but again, you're the team principal.

00:27:11.031 --> 00:27:11.653
You're not a fan?

00:27:14.203 --> 00:27:19.212
no, but ultimately this is a sport this is a sport, and I pay money to see a sport.

00:27:19.212 --> 00:27:19.753
What I don't?

00:27:19.773 --> 00:27:20.240
want you.

00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.547
That's what you, the fan, want to see as a.

00:27:23.547 --> 00:27:24.188
You have to.

00:27:24.188 --> 00:27:27.433
I'm looking at it from the perspective of the team boss.

00:27:27.433 --> 00:27:28.806
What's best for the team?

00:27:28.806 --> 00:27:31.689
It's not what's best for MotoGP.

00:27:31.689 --> 00:27:34.950
That's not my, that's not your job.

00:27:35.059 --> 00:27:36.484
You do know, MotoGP is a product right.

00:27:37.327 --> 00:27:37.548
Yes.

00:27:38.321 --> 00:27:39.748
And it's an entertainment product right.

00:27:41.260 --> 00:27:44.605
Again, they don't owe the fans.

00:27:44.605 --> 00:27:51.163
I'm paying you, no, no, but they don't owe you.

00:27:51.163 --> 00:27:52.929
So let me ask you this as a sport person.

00:27:52.949 --> 00:27:53.490
Let me explain it.

00:27:53.980 --> 00:28:00.874
They don't owe you the right to put people in the team that they think will be best for you, the fan.

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:16.497
They put people in the team who they think would be best for them as the team and smart marcus is in the team because they felt that whatever they saw is best for the team again you, I'm being playing the devil's advocate with this right.

00:28:16.557 --> 00:28:19.625
No, you don't you know, what you need to do is look at it from a sports.

00:28:19.625 --> 00:28:22.671
You say you're a sports purist, right, you love sports.

00:28:22.671 --> 00:28:23.961
Yeah, why would you?

00:28:23.961 --> 00:28:27.866
Why would you rather see Peckham Martin in the team and then not give Mark a good bike?

00:28:27.866 --> 00:28:29.403
I owe you a sports.

00:28:29.945 --> 00:28:33.846
No, no, no, Look like I said, I'm being a devil's advocate with this.

00:28:33.846 --> 00:28:34.849
You're misinterpreting.

00:28:34.869 --> 00:28:35.590
No, I don't want you to be a.

00:28:35.590 --> 00:28:38.442
That's what I'm saying, I don't want you to be a devil's advocate?

00:28:38.442 --> 00:28:42.067
I want you to, or sports, we don't want to play devil's advocate.

00:28:42.067 --> 00:28:43.169
We're talking about.

00:28:43.189 --> 00:28:45.071
Devil's advocate in discussing sports.

00:28:45.071 --> 00:28:49.828
So my thing is okay.

00:28:49.828 --> 00:28:50.819
I understand the reasoning.

00:28:50.819 --> 00:29:03.230
Wider side, Mike, I understand it, but what I'm saying is from a cohesive point of view.

00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:07.901
Right, it might not be the best signing, Did you?

00:29:07.921 --> 00:29:09.385
feel that when Russell went back to Yamaha?

00:29:09.385 --> 00:29:14.851
Sorry, did you feel that when Russell went back to Yamaha from Ducati In Lorenzo's house?

00:29:17.660 --> 00:29:18.801
But was it Lorenzo's house?

00:29:19.721 --> 00:29:25.236
Russell built that house no, he left and lorenzo became the man.

00:29:25.316 --> 00:29:27.583
It doesn't matter but russi built that house.

00:29:27.583 --> 00:29:29.167
It's a different, it's not the same thing.

00:29:29.167 --> 00:29:31.173
Russi built that house.

00:29:31.173 --> 00:29:51.330
Rossi jumped off the dominant honda at the end of 2000 2002 onto a yaman yamaha that biagi and melange couldn't win on and won a championship for them back to back years but what I'm saying to you, when Rossi, but when Rossi, when he left and Lorenzo did what he did, right, because it became Lorenzo's house, right.

00:29:51.330 --> 00:29:52.890
Yeah, bringing back Rossi in.

00:29:53.765 --> 00:29:56.212
But there wasn't any other rider that you think could have gotten that seat.

00:29:57.205 --> 00:29:57.666
But hold on.

00:29:57.666 --> 00:29:59.490
But bringing Rossi back in?

00:29:59.490 --> 00:30:05.410
Rossi was already showing his performance was already declining.

00:30:05.410 --> 00:30:13.855
So bringing him back in wasn't really a threat to Yamaha because they knew Lorenzo had the speed.

00:30:13.855 --> 00:30:19.631
They didn't bring Rossi back in because they felt like if Lorenzo couldn't get the job done, rossi would get the job done.

00:30:19.684 --> 00:30:26.316
So I guess what you're saying that Gigi and the Ducati family shouldn't have disrupted what Pekka got going on Is that?

00:30:26.316 --> 00:30:32.154
What you're saying yes, yeah, because he just lost a championship, and that's the very reason why they probably saw those things and be like you know what?

00:30:32.154 --> 00:30:33.391
This guy is still error prone.

00:30:33.886 --> 00:30:36.049
No, but they signed him before he lost the championship.

00:30:36.351 --> 00:30:37.013
That's what I'm saying to you.

00:30:37.013 --> 00:30:47.208
These guys are not just signing things, riders big bro.

00:30:47.228 --> 00:30:48.875
No, but you said gg has always wanted to work.

00:30:48.895 --> 00:30:53.872
Yeah, he has always wanted him, but but he was not just going to sign him just because he likes him.

00:30:53.872 --> 00:30:55.176
He might not be like you know what this?

00:30:55.176 --> 00:30:56.602
Is no one is going to sign someone because they like it.

00:30:56.602 --> 00:30:57.443
He's a time world champion.

00:30:57.464 --> 00:30:58.586
So why wouldn't they know?

00:30:58.586 --> 00:31:00.330
Because he's still showing performance.

00:31:00.330 --> 00:31:09.925
Not, no one is doing that but we all know the only reason why mark couldn't perform was because of the quality of bike he was on.

00:31:09.925 --> 00:31:16.778
His ability to perform was never in question, so so, even so, he didn't.

00:31:16.778 --> 00:31:19.989
Gg didn't need to know how mark would perform.

00:31:19.989 --> 00:31:22.114
He knows what mark is capable of doing.

00:31:22.273 --> 00:31:30.173
No, you can't say because mark mark, from mark's very own mouth, from his own mouth, he did say he wasn't sure what was going to happen.

00:31:30.173 --> 00:31:34.070
He said I've been going, I've been through the ringers, my arm is messed up.

00:31:34.070 --> 00:31:37.726
He didn't know which is why, because he said at one point he was thinking of retire.

00:31:37.726 --> 00:31:43.506
He said if the last year didn't go, it went, he would have retired yeah, okay, fine, fair enough.

00:31:43.686 --> 00:31:46.057
But again my argument.

00:31:46.057 --> 00:31:51.191
Look, this is why I said I'm just playing david advocate here from for a more cohesive point.

00:31:51.191 --> 00:31:58.067
I'd understand the mark signing if pecker wasn't delivering what the team wanted.

00:31:58.067 --> 00:32:07.997
Then you could understand, because then you can point, look back and say well, sorry, pecker, you had to buy to win the championship three years in a row.

00:32:07.997 --> 00:32:09.150
You lost all three years.

00:32:09.150 --> 00:32:14.678
We're going to have to bring somebody in who we know can deliver if we give them the bike.

00:32:14.678 --> 00:32:18.444
But Pekka's proven that he can deliver the results.

00:32:18.444 --> 00:32:23.917
So bringing Mark in now, you've pretty much upset the balance of the team.

00:32:25.386 --> 00:32:26.151
I beg to differ.

00:32:26.151 --> 00:32:30.415
I think it's great for the team, right?

00:32:30.415 --> 00:32:33.588
I think it's great for the team, it's great for the sport and that's all I care about.

00:32:33.588 --> 00:32:34.291
To be honest, right?

00:32:34.291 --> 00:32:36.313
Let me look at this real quick, right?

00:32:36.313 --> 00:32:44.088
That's all I care about is no, but you have to care about both, that's what I said, but I think it's good for the team too.

00:32:44.430 --> 00:32:46.576
I think it's good for the team, Because guess what now?

00:32:46.576 --> 00:32:52.597
Because now you see, they tested the 2025 engine Didn't work right.

00:32:52.597 --> 00:32:54.170
So in your area they'd be like you know what?

00:32:54.170 --> 00:32:55.113
The bike is already there.

00:32:55.113 --> 00:32:55.674
It does stay there.

00:32:55.674 --> 00:33:00.035
No, they're going to go for one of the greatest to push them even further.

00:33:00.035 --> 00:33:01.738
Right, that's what they're looking at.

00:33:01.738 --> 00:33:01.958
They.

00:33:01.958 --> 00:33:02.898
Can we go any further?

00:33:02.898 --> 00:33:04.259
Can we push any further?

00:33:04.259 --> 00:33:06.240
Are we getting the maximum out of this bike?

00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.961
Maybe these are the things that you're looking at.

00:33:07.961 --> 00:33:14.836
They're like you know what, from what we're seeing with mark in this 2023, I think in this next bike but what's the map?

00:33:15.016 --> 00:33:15.798
but hold on.

00:33:15.798 --> 00:33:28.997
You said the issue they're having is the fact that the engine isn't working as how they'd like it to be right, yeah, so how can mark push that any further?

00:33:28.997 --> 00:33:29.765
No, I'm not talking.

00:33:29.785 --> 00:33:32.673
I'm talking now, I'm not, I'm saying with the current bike.

00:33:32.673 --> 00:33:43.409
When they're looking at these things right, they're probably looking and be like, if he's doing that on the 2023 and they're they're going to cross reference data they're probably like you know what, what we're seeing Martin and and and peko do?

00:33:43.409 --> 00:33:47.728
When we're looking at this data, it looks like there's another two tenths in this bike.

00:33:47.728 --> 00:33:52.450
That's something you don't know what they're seeing as to why they sign them, because it's all about data.

00:33:52.450 --> 00:33:54.882
Everything is data driven, so maybe they're seeing data.

00:33:54.882 --> 00:34:06.421
And when they're cross-referencing everything, oh, we thought the bike was at its maximum, but hey, looking at this date over here, compared to this bike with this, I think we have a whole anotherher 210 310 in this bike.

00:34:06.421 --> 00:34:07.768
We just need him on it.

00:34:07.768 --> 00:34:12.447
Yeah, okay, you gotta remember it's not about just winning championships, about how dominant can we?

00:34:12.447 --> 00:34:14.454
Can we go a full season without losing a race?

00:34:14.454 --> 00:34:16.663
Maybe that's the next motivation.

00:34:16.663 --> 00:34:18.425
You never know, that's not gonna happen.

00:34:18.465 --> 00:34:22.271
But the point, but the point is um, so you find it.

00:34:22.271 --> 00:34:24.713
How finding that again?

00:34:24.713 --> 00:34:32.041
I'd understand that if there was a team right up their ass challenging them week in, week out.

00:34:32.041 --> 00:34:36.253
But there was only who won races last year?

00:34:36.253 --> 00:34:43.585
Aprilia, main races, aprilia, which was Maverick, yeah, in Koto.

00:34:43.585 --> 00:34:50.159
So the only main race that was won by a non-Ducati was in Aprilia.

00:34:50.425 --> 00:34:53.934
But you heard what I just said to you Mm-hmm, yeah, they're winning right.

00:34:54.856 --> 00:34:55.036
Yeah.

00:34:55.485 --> 00:34:57.465
So now their motivation might be something else.

00:34:57.465 --> 00:35:01.494
Yeah, I know we could win a championship, but we need to dominate.

00:35:01.494 --> 00:35:02.036
We need to.

00:35:02.036 --> 00:35:06.255
What if their next motivation is to, just as I said, win the whole calendar?

00:35:06.255 --> 00:35:10.971
We don't want to come set, we just want to dominate Because at this point we're winning.

00:35:10.971 --> 00:35:13.773
There's nothing else that we yeah, we won everything.

00:35:13.773 --> 00:35:15.592
We know we got the best bike, but guess what?

00:35:15.592 --> 00:35:19.945
We need to see this bike break track records for the next couple of seasons.

00:35:19.945 --> 00:35:22.655
We need to see this bike win everything that's going.

00:35:22.655 --> 00:35:24.547
You never know what are their motivations.

00:35:24.547 --> 00:35:26.192
You never know what data these guys are seeing.

00:35:26.231 --> 00:35:31.630
I don't think they just sign mark because, just because they like him, they're things and there's reasons as to why they signed him.

00:35:31.630 --> 00:35:33.735
I don't think it's just out of thin air.

00:35:33.735 --> 00:35:41.349
There's something that they saw as to why they signed him, and that's exactly what his crew chief said when, um, I think one of is it a race or one of them?

00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:46.496
Um media outlets interviewed him and he's saying what there's.

00:35:46.496 --> 00:35:48.219
He said I could understand why they signed him.

00:35:48.219 --> 00:35:51.891
You don't see it, but I see right.

00:35:51.891 --> 00:35:55.994
So that's why I'm okay with it and I just want to see what it.

00:35:55.994 --> 00:35:56.235
Now.

00:35:56.235 --> 00:35:58.945
Who said it doesn't necessarily mean that Mark is going to win a championship.

00:35:58.945 --> 00:36:03.987
Peke could step his game up, his game up, learn from last year and step his game up to a whole another level.

00:36:03.987 --> 00:36:07.936
You never know, which is why I'm okay with it again.

00:36:08.376 --> 00:36:09.626
I'm not disagreeing with that.

00:36:09.626 --> 00:36:20.489
But at the same time you've also introduced an element into a situation that could become, could explode in your face you could end up have again.

00:36:20.489 --> 00:36:26.092
You could end up having a similar Rossi Lorenzo situation in that team.

00:36:26.092 --> 00:36:27.012
Did it bring them?

00:36:27.032 --> 00:36:27.454
championships.

00:36:27.454 --> 00:36:31.208
Having a similar Rossi Lorenzo situation in that team Did it bring them championships?

00:36:31.228 --> 00:36:35.054
Yes, but again the bad blood was there.

00:36:35.054 --> 00:36:47.882
You had to deal with that bad blood dynamics and did you think that got more eyes on?

00:36:47.902 --> 00:36:48.523
the sports you keep.

00:36:48.523 --> 00:36:49.949
No, because you've got to understand.

00:36:49.949 --> 00:36:50.612
All of this is part of the sport.

00:36:50.612 --> 00:36:51.155
Bad blood is part of sport.

00:36:51.155 --> 00:36:51.476
We just said it.

00:36:51.476 --> 00:36:51.940
Wound is part of sport.

00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:57.255
Bad blood, that's what some people likes it, for that again, we're not looking at it from the perspective of fans.

00:36:57.255 --> 00:37:03.697
We move ourselves as fans and look at it from the perspective I say we're running a team no, we're not running, we're fans.

00:37:03.945 --> 00:37:13.708
Let's not change our title, we're fans no, I mean, we were talking about this podcast from a fan perspective yeah, I don't know about the team principal stuff, right, I'm gay and I'm getting.

00:37:13.809 --> 00:37:16.175
I'm not disputing that side of the argument.

00:37:16.175 --> 00:37:17.626
We're trying to be balanced here.

00:37:17.626 --> 00:37:22.782
We're saying you keep saying it's a good signing from a fan's perspective.

00:37:22.782 --> 00:37:27.253
I got part, I know that part I'm not disagreeing with.

00:37:27.253 --> 00:37:37.353
But what I'm saying is because you're saying basically it's their responsibility, ducati's responsibility, to have a lineup that's entertaining for the fans.

00:37:37.655 --> 00:37:42.005
No, it's not okay, let me play the team principle.

00:37:42.005 --> 00:37:43.307
Okay, because that's what I'm saying.

00:37:43.307 --> 00:37:45.773
It's going to be difference of opinion, so we're going to move on from this shortly.

00:37:45.773 --> 00:37:49.842
I'm a team principal, like I'm a gg.

00:37:49.842 --> 00:37:51.146
I designed a bike with my team.

00:37:51.146 --> 00:37:55.320
It's a dominant bike, right, we've won the championship.

00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:56.945
It's my bike, even with pramac one.

00:37:56.945 --> 00:37:59.032
It's my work, right, it's my team's work.

00:37:59.032 --> 00:37:59.956
So I'm cool with that.

00:38:01.322 --> 00:38:05.391
So I'm over here and I'm looking at this, this other person over here and I'm looking at all this data that they're putting to me.

00:38:05.391 --> 00:38:19.572
I'm like, as a team principal, as an engineer because gg's an engineer before he's anything else, he's engineer driven so I'm looking at it's like, oh, so you're telling me that, oh, we won a championship.

00:38:19.572 --> 00:38:20.172
That's cool.

00:38:20.172 --> 00:38:30.465
So I'm saying you're saying that this guy over there on that bike if, if we give him this bike, he could go two tenths quicker.

00:38:30.465 --> 00:38:32.610
I thought we was at the maximum in this motorcycle.

00:38:32.610 --> 00:38:35.157
Well, no, boss, no, we're not.

00:38:35.157 --> 00:38:38.434
I think if we put him on it, we could see even more dominance.

00:38:38.434 --> 00:38:42.235
I know the novelty of this winning championship has worn off.

00:38:42.235 --> 00:39:08.014
I want the next motivation, which is to possibly have the opportunity to win everything and really cement my, my work as the greatest ever in motor gp because you won every race in the champ in the season and dominated like a bike that literally break track records after track records throughout the season the gp24 did that last year.

00:39:08.255 --> 00:39:09.376
It doesn't have all the track records.

00:39:09.376 --> 00:39:10.199
That's what I'm saying to you.

00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.769
So that's what the motivations are different.

00:39:14.153 --> 00:39:26.213
The motivations are different the motivation should be to win the championship that's what I'm saying yeah, but as an engineer, which ggs are they're looking at?

00:39:26.253 --> 00:39:26.994
now we've won that.

00:39:26.994 --> 00:39:27.436
That's cool.

00:39:27.436 --> 00:39:28.586
What's the next motivation?

00:39:28.586 --> 00:39:34.085
Because even if the next team is miles behind, what's the next thing that we could do?

00:39:34.085 --> 00:39:35.449
I want to go down.

00:39:35.449 --> 00:39:36.471
I'm the engineer.

00:39:36.471 --> 00:39:38.074
I want to go down as the greatest.

00:39:38.074 --> 00:39:39.237
I want to go down.

00:39:39.237 --> 00:39:41.690
Design the greatest bike to ever grace, a motor gp, grid, right.

00:39:41.690 --> 00:39:46.282
And you're telling me if I get that guy, there's a possibility I could achieve that if I get that guy.

00:39:46.302 --> 00:39:47.704
There's a possibility I could achieve that.

00:39:47.704 --> 00:39:48.911
Okay, go get that guy.

00:39:48.911 --> 00:39:50.780
You see what I'm saying.

00:39:50.780 --> 00:39:54.635
There's a lot of things as to why it could be, why he's there.

00:39:54.635 --> 00:39:56.856
It's not just winning the championship.

00:39:56.896 --> 00:39:58.608
There's other motivations, because you're used to winning.

00:39:58.628 --> 00:39:58.769
Now.

00:39:59.686 --> 00:40:01.353
So then his motivation is personal.

00:40:01.353 --> 00:40:12.909
It could be a team thing, it could be a team or injury.

00:40:12.909 --> 00:40:13.130
Be like yo.

00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:14.134
We want this because after winning, what else is?

00:40:14.134 --> 00:40:14.655
That's never gonna happen.

00:40:14.655 --> 00:40:15.056
You don't know this.

00:40:15.056 --> 00:40:17.003
No, I pretty, I think we pretty much can, we can pretty much guarantee that it's never gonna happen.

00:40:17.003 --> 00:40:17.927
You're never gonna win.

00:40:17.927 --> 00:40:23.918
No, I mean they all, everyone thought the rb20 in 23 was gonna win.

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.472
Every single race that but it doesn't stop them from dreaming.

00:40:26.472 --> 00:40:30.014
That's what I'm trying to explain to you because let me ask you after winning, what does?

00:40:30.014 --> 00:40:32.288
If you win, if you've won everything, two things happen.

00:40:33.070 --> 00:40:48.371
You either find enough of motivation or you get bored but you can't, but, but people don't get bored of winning in that, in that, in that, in that arena, in that, in the arena of sports.

00:40:48.371 --> 00:40:50.365
Nobody gets bored of winning.

00:40:50.485 --> 00:41:00.992
Yes, you can get bored of winning, especially if you're not you're, you're on a motorcycle that's just dominating, whereas, like, there's not even a closest, a close challenger oh no, you're not going to get bored of winning because you want to win.

00:41:01.333 --> 00:41:05.027
Your motivation is to win, so if you win, you want to keep on winning.

00:41:05.027 --> 00:41:07.266
You know you have never been bored of winning.

00:41:07.387 --> 00:41:14.255
Of course, you have people that get bored of winning you, so you get bored of stuff and then they have to find a different motivation, which is why you have some players.

00:41:14.255 --> 00:41:15.117
In some sport.

00:41:15.117 --> 00:41:17.554
People might be and be like why did he leave that team?

00:41:17.554 --> 00:41:19.380
They're winning team.

00:41:19.380 --> 00:41:23.090
Hey, man, I wanted another motivation that, yeah, I won.

00:41:23.090 --> 00:41:25.898
Yeah, I thought winning was going to be this, but it wore off.

00:41:25.898 --> 00:41:32.525
I need to find, I need to go to this team who's struggling and see what I could do okay, but what's his motivation to do there?

00:41:32.706 --> 00:41:36.393
huh but you leave a winning team to go to another team.

00:41:36.393 --> 00:41:37.375
What's your motivation?

00:41:37.375 --> 00:41:39.018
To win again.

00:41:39.018 --> 00:41:42.918
So your motivation is winning.

00:41:42.918 --> 00:41:47.755
So you're not really bored of winning, you just, you just want to try and win in a different way.

00:41:47.755 --> 00:41:48.557
Now, exactly.

00:41:48.557 --> 00:41:49.722
So now the entire goal is to win.

00:41:49.722 --> 00:41:50.224
So you're right.

00:41:50.864 --> 00:41:54.012
So with the Ducati now they're winning, but they want more dominance.

00:41:54.012 --> 00:42:04.717
We want to dominate, we just don't want to win, because there's winning and there's dominating, there's making that person know that you ain't coming nowhere close to me anytime soon I'm gonna make sure, I'm gonna make sure y'all get buried.

00:42:05.278 --> 00:42:16.952
Yeah, but again, bro, they dominated last year's championship, with the exception of one race, they dominated no, they dominated with the same bike, but different teams I'm talking about.

00:42:17.052 --> 00:42:20.284
We want the fracture team to dominate.

00:42:20.284 --> 00:42:21.246
We don't want even the.

00:42:21.246 --> 00:42:25.693
We don't even want our satellite bike anywhere in europe we want the team.

00:42:25.934 --> 00:42:33.262
The fracture team won more than 50 percent of the races last year yeah, but they still lost the champions.

00:42:33.282 --> 00:42:34.065
That's what I'm saying to you.

00:42:34.065 --> 00:42:35.228
There's a lot of things that's moving.

00:42:35.228 --> 00:42:38.045
They lost one of the championships, right, so they lost the champion.

00:42:38.045 --> 00:42:43.409
Yeah, I'm talking, I don't care about it, I'm talking about the riders championship, right in this current situation, right.

00:42:43.409 --> 00:42:45.572
So I'm gonna move it.

00:42:45.572 --> 00:42:49.650
But I personally think that, signing Mark, there's reasons as to why they signed him.

00:42:49.650 --> 00:42:52.507
They didn't just sign him just because of because they had Martin.

00:42:52.507 --> 00:42:53.130
They could have signed.

00:42:53.130 --> 00:43:15.965
There's a reason, I don't know, right, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say I think it's just data that they saw that it's going to refuse the guy Because the fastest rider over a lap is martin that's the thing being fast over a lap does not win you championships, though, but he uh well, it did win him a championship this year, so you can't really say that's right.

00:43:15.985 --> 00:43:33.875
So if the fastest guy, so when he gets you that time that's the best time you can get.

00:43:33.875 --> 00:43:45.336
How can they then look at the data and say this bike can go two to three tenths faster I'm talking about over race distance right, yeah, but I'm talking about what you can do.

00:43:45.958 --> 00:43:57.690
But over a race distance, you're not riding the the bike to its full potential, because there's limitations, there's things that you have to manage.

00:43:57.690 --> 00:44:20.347
You have to manage fuel, you have to manage tire usage, so so the idea that it can go two to three tenths faster based on the data is not actually correct it can, because, if you're looking at, because if Mark comes in this team this year and he's dominating Peco over a race distance whereas he's finishing up the road, that's different.

00:44:21.512 --> 00:44:25.139
Right, that's what I'm looking at what is he going to do compared to Peco?

00:44:25.139 --> 00:44:25.371
Oh, now I see why they signed him.

00:44:25.371 --> 00:44:25.724
This makes a whole lot of sense, right?

00:44:25.724 --> 00:44:26.088
Right, that's what I'm looking at.

00:44:26.088 --> 00:44:26.565
What is he going to do compared to Peco?

00:44:26.565 --> 00:44:28.068
For me to say, oh, now I see why they signed him.

00:44:28.068 --> 00:44:34.057
This makes a whole lot of sense, right, as I said, I don't know, right, I'm just thinking.

00:44:34.057 --> 00:44:36.451
I just don't have a problem with the signing.

00:44:36.451 --> 00:44:37.454
I think it's a good signing.

00:44:37.664 --> 00:44:49.228
I never said I had a problem with the signing I angle where I'm saying I think it okay.

00:44:49.248 --> 00:44:50.755
Once it's a good sign, it it could potentially blow up in their face.

00:44:50.755 --> 00:44:50.956
I love it.

00:44:50.956 --> 00:44:51.701
I love it, but, yeah, um, we kind of win.

00:44:51.701 --> 00:45:00.246
I'm probably gonna edit out a lot of that because that's long, um, that's already 41 minutes, right, so, um, yeah, so, continuing with the season opener.

00:45:02.148 --> 00:45:21.869
Well, um, based on what we saw in that last test, I think mark goes into this race as the favorite because he he had uh, I think he had the fastest time in that test and one of the better race simulations for the sprint race.

00:45:21.869 --> 00:45:24.813
So I think he goes in there as the favorite.

00:45:24.813 --> 00:45:29.728
But you can never rule pecker out, because we know, we know what pecker is like.

00:45:29.728 --> 00:45:33.641
He'll be nowhere on a friday and saturday morning.

00:45:33.641 --> 00:45:49.719
He turns up after going through the data, they've made the changes and boom, he's right back there again he who makes the most mistakes lose the championship this year well, maybe, maybe not, maybe not, maybe neither.

00:45:49.759 --> 00:45:56.724
They make it that mistake and the one who wins the most races wins the championship the reason I said.

00:45:56.923 --> 00:45:59.329
I think it's going to be somewhat close.

00:45:59.329 --> 00:46:03.697
I don't think it's going to be if it was the markets of.

00:46:03.697 --> 00:46:09.293
Let me not say it, because the crazy thing is, mark still operates at a very high level.

00:46:12.090 --> 00:46:13.253
But he's still making mistakes.

00:46:13.253 --> 00:46:16.092
He made a lot of mistakes last year as well.

00:46:16.092 --> 00:46:17.576
He made mistakes.

00:46:17.576 --> 00:46:20.994
He crashed out of races, he crashed in qualifying.

00:46:21.547 --> 00:46:24.692
He crashed in quarter, but he didn't crash in a lot of races.

00:46:25.224 --> 00:46:26.289
Well, he crashed out of a few races't crash in a lot of races.

00:46:26.289 --> 00:46:27.137
Well, he crashed in a few races.

00:46:27.137 --> 00:46:30.054
He made mistakes in races that cost him.

00:46:30.054 --> 00:46:32.934
So again, he's not perfect.

00:46:34.193 --> 00:46:40.751
No one says he's perfect, but Mark, as I said, when he's fighting for champion he does not crash in races for purpose.

00:46:40.751 --> 00:46:51.853
Like it's very rare, mark Mark McDowell is crashing in practice qualifying, but he's not a serial crasher in races yeah, because back then he had a bike that he was.

00:46:53.014 --> 00:47:03.702
That made somewhat made it easy his job easy, so he didn't have to be pushing um continuously to maintain a lead or whatnot the time.

00:47:03.702 --> 00:47:11.996
At the time he was winning with the exception of Dovey, and I think which is we all know he's got right we all know where Dovey is, that's what Picker's got right now.

00:47:12.016 --> 00:47:24.771
Right what the boy that makes his job easy yeah, nothing wrong with that, still crushed a lot of times okay, it happens he just had a.

00:47:24.911 --> 00:47:35.307
He just had a bad season where things that he was struggling with the tires we all know that his the story pekka was not struggling with tires last year oh, yes, he was there was a.

00:47:35.327 --> 00:47:38.076
There was a real started the season, the, the.

00:47:38.155 --> 00:47:53.925
The bot that struggled with tires last year was a gp23 and bezeki no, pekka had issues with the ties because there was a race um last year I can't remember where it was, where I know it's the one um he fell back so far, and it wasn't until late in the race.

00:47:55.047 --> 00:48:00.985
He's like you know, it's only now the tires start working with, I think, with like five or six lap left in the race.

00:48:00.985 --> 00:48:04.230
That's when his tires start to work and his pace picked up.

00:48:04.230 --> 00:48:07.875
So, and then, what he did with that I remember, don't, don't forget.

00:48:07.875 --> 00:48:16.152
He came out and he was publicly bashing michelin and they pretty much told him that he need to zip it and it's from then he stopped.

00:48:16.152 --> 00:48:20.936
So he had issues with that, with the tires, last year as well not, it's not consistent.

00:48:20.976 --> 00:48:21.699
He had that.

00:48:21.699 --> 00:48:22.744
I know the race he's talking about.

00:48:22.744 --> 00:48:24.713
It's the one where he crashed, and that's the thing with him as well.

00:48:24.713 --> 00:48:26.340
Right, he was the one where he crashed, and that's the thing with him as well.

00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:27.644
Right, he was never going to win that race, and that's the thing.

00:48:27.644 --> 00:48:33.172
I don't think he's got good race management skills if he's not at the front and if he doesn't have that, he's going to lose against Mark.

00:48:33.172 --> 00:48:36.092
I could tell you that now.

00:48:36.132 --> 00:48:36.795
That's not true.

00:48:36.795 --> 00:48:44.376
Because again we saw him last year, malaysia.

00:48:44.376 --> 00:48:47.400
We saw him in Buriram.

00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.344
Last year we saw him in was it Jerez against Mark?

00:48:52.344 --> 00:48:58.797
So I disagreed to the point you're saying he can only manage races if he's in front.

00:48:58.797 --> 00:49:07.938
That's not true, because we've seen him had to go fight, literally bang fairings, to win races against mark.

00:49:07.938 --> 00:49:09.545
And no, you're talking no, I'm not talking.

00:49:09.585 --> 00:49:11.871
I'm talking about that race.

00:49:11.871 --> 00:49:12.954
It was it really.

00:49:12.954 --> 00:49:15.427
I think it was his um, was it his was?

00:49:15.427 --> 00:49:20.277
It his own race, the one where bastian in his sent him off, sent martin off the track.

00:49:20.277 --> 00:49:21.146
What was that?

00:49:21.146 --> 00:49:25.893
That was the san marino grumpy right um.

00:49:25.893 --> 00:49:32.081
Didn't martin win san marino that's the one, no, no, the one that won.

00:49:32.081 --> 00:49:35.009
How was it mark that one?

00:49:35.009 --> 00:49:39.748
San marino last year, 2024.

00:49:39.748 --> 00:49:41.233
Right, we're coming off 24.

00:49:41.304 --> 00:49:44.813
I think mark might have won san marino, because he won at aragon.

00:49:46.338 --> 00:49:49.204
I think Mark might have won San Marino because he won at Aragon, yeah, I think.

00:49:51.985 --> 00:49:54.291
And then that's the one where Eni ran Martin off the track.

00:49:54.311 --> 00:49:55.675
Yeah, so Peke crashed out of this race.

00:49:55.675 --> 00:49:57.025
Which race?

00:49:57.025 --> 00:49:58.550
This is the race when his tyre was giving him the issues.

00:50:00.054 --> 00:50:04.014
Yeah, but I'm sure that wasn't the only race.

00:50:04.014 --> 00:50:11.096
There was another race where he complained about the tyre and you could see that he was having problems with the tyre.

00:50:11.096 --> 00:50:12.190
He didn't crash out of it.

00:50:12.190 --> 00:50:19.014
But the point is, I don't think it's a fair statement to say you know, he can only manage races if he's at the front of the race.

00:50:19.014 --> 00:50:25.909
We've seen him kind of and again, you also have to factor in as well and when I say manage, I mean that race the whole far.

00:50:25.929 --> 00:50:27.693
He fell back with those tires the way he was pushing.

00:50:27.693 --> 00:50:30.117
He was never going to win that race and he didn't.

00:50:30.117 --> 00:50:35.077
Yeah because, yeah, these are the little things that he still chink, that he still got in his armor.

00:50:35.157 --> 00:50:38.204
But you can't that's not fair, because again, that's not me.

00:50:40.347 --> 00:50:40.827
Everyone in.

00:50:40.827 --> 00:50:43.871
Motogp know If you ask him about Peko, what's Peko's fault?

00:50:43.871 --> 00:50:48.659
Peko tends to crash when he doesn't need to.

00:50:48.659 --> 00:50:55.436
Right, if there's a chink in Peko's armor, that's it.

00:50:55.436 --> 00:50:59.474
He crashes in crucial times, especially in races.

00:50:59.474 --> 00:51:12.014
Right, and I could tell you this now If you're going up against a Marcus who, who's competitive and think he could win, thinks he can win a championship, you will not beat him with that chink in your arm.

00:51:12.014 --> 00:51:15.668
I could tell you that right now that's.

00:51:15.869 --> 00:51:18.836
I mean, that's pretty, that's pretty, that's pretty common, isn't it?

00:51:18.836 --> 00:51:25.817
It's not, it's not rocket science, science, to come to that, um that.

00:51:25.817 --> 00:51:32.317
But I think you know Pekka isn't being given his due respect.

00:51:32.846 --> 00:51:42.614
People give him his due respect, I think, but you still can't, because what people are trying to because he won two championships is like okay, he's not being reproached, he makes a lot of mistakes.

00:51:42.804 --> 00:51:45.094
I don't think anyone is saying he's being reproached.

00:51:45.094 --> 00:51:53.307
The point is people, just people, always assume that he's incapable.

00:51:53.327 --> 00:51:54.811
He doesn't have that dog in him and I don't think that's true.

00:51:54.811 --> 00:51:56.297
That's a different story.

00:51:56.297 --> 00:51:56.717
I did not say that.

00:51:56.737 --> 00:52:02.472
I said I'm not saying you said it, but people have this view of him that he doesn't have that dog in him.

00:52:03.094 --> 00:52:03.775
He does have it.

00:52:03.775 --> 00:52:10.088
I just think he, he, that dog in him he does have it.

00:52:10.088 --> 00:52:11.554
I just think he this season is really gonna have to be on his a game.

00:52:11.554 --> 00:52:12.235
So those races are you crazy.

00:52:12.235 --> 00:52:12.878
Let's see what he does.

00:52:12.898 --> 00:52:15.869
Obviously he's gonna have to because again he has mark marquez next to him.

00:52:15.869 --> 00:52:21.126
So you can't you where every mistake he will punish you if you make a mistake.

00:52:21.126 --> 00:52:27.500
So he's gonna have to be on his a game it's, and I think last year proved that yeah, you know.

00:52:27.539 --> 00:52:29.726
So let's, let's see, let's see it pans out.

00:52:29.726 --> 00:52:32.492
Um, yeah, uh, move on, marty.

00:52:32.913 --> 00:52:43.550
Um, I think he's, he's gonna make the first race yeah, he's gonna make the first race, but the problem is we're gonna have a full grid, the first race I don't think anyone's gonna be missing.

00:52:44.193 --> 00:52:46.961
Huh, we were so wrong on that one.

00:52:46.961 --> 00:52:54.545
It has since been reported that martin will not be attending the first grand prix of the season due to a training accident.

00:52:54.545 --> 00:52:57.210
This is big news.

00:52:57.210 --> 00:53:00.175
This is why I love this sport.

00:53:00.175 --> 00:53:03.427
You never know what is going to happen on any given day.

00:53:03.427 --> 00:53:08.025
I wish martin a speedy recovery because I want to see him on this grid.

00:53:08.025 --> 00:53:11.030
However, he's got his teammate bezeki.

00:53:11.030 --> 00:53:16.485
Only hope he could um, hold the mantle and carry the torch for aprilia racing.

00:53:16.485 --> 00:53:21.190
Yeah well, back to the regular scheduling.

00:53:21.371 --> 00:53:26.597
Let's continue this podcast the problem is will he be fit?

00:53:26.597 --> 00:53:33.427
Will he be fit, you know, and will the bike be able to be there for him?

00:53:33.427 --> 00:53:40.465
So mark martin is coming into the season the most unprepared, along with who is it?

00:53:40.766 --> 00:53:45.597
dj dj and someone else fernandez did come backes did come back to the ballroom.

00:53:45.597 --> 00:53:46.559
He did come back to the ballroom.

00:53:47.847 --> 00:53:51.032
So these three will be going into the season well unprepared.

00:53:51.032 --> 00:54:01.266
Martin, I think it's a big season for him because of that switch, you know, and again he had no choice but to make that switch.

00:54:01.266 --> 00:54:18.065
So how, and you know, to have that crash and to have that injury put him well on the back foot because I, like I said I don't, I said to you last week, I don't think this move is going to pay off for him in terms of delivering him a championship and again, that's not his fault.

00:54:18.646 --> 00:54:22.393
The um, I think the bike is somewhat here because what bezak did on it?

00:54:22.393 --> 00:54:25.514
I'm not sure if it was just track specific, but at least he could look at them like.

00:54:25.554 --> 00:54:35.860
Well, at least the bike is somewhat here the bike is the bike is what we saw from them in um buram is is track specific.

00:54:35.860 --> 00:54:41.867
So but again, it's you know for the first race, I think.

00:54:41.867 --> 00:54:44.289
I think it's you know for the first race, I think.

00:54:44.289 --> 00:54:50.936
I think it's um Mark is going into that race as favorite, but you again, pekka, could surprise everybody.

00:54:50.936 --> 00:54:56.429
For me, the dark horse, I think, will be the Yamaha of Fabio.

00:54:57.130 --> 00:55:01.304
And Buram Yep, that's a bold one.

00:55:12.659 --> 00:55:14.222
You know who my dark arse is?

00:55:14.222 --> 00:55:14.583
Who Alex Marquez.

00:55:14.603 --> 00:55:17.085
He's gonna be on the 24, gp, 24.

00:55:17.126 --> 00:55:23.393
That's my dark arse for the whole season.

00:55:23.393 --> 00:55:33.548
Yeah, well, oh, let's see how he goes, but I'm looking forward to this to the start to this season and you know, I hope it's.

00:55:33.548 --> 00:55:35.632
I hope the year is an exciting one.

00:55:35.632 --> 00:55:42.471
I want well, I think it's going to be exciting, and I want to see how I think peekka might surprise a lot of people.

00:55:42.490 --> 00:55:43.994
Yeah, I don't think it's going to be a wash.

00:55:43.994 --> 00:55:45.967
I think I want him to perform well.

00:55:45.967 --> 00:56:00.266
Right, I want him to perform well because I, if Mark, is going to go for a ninth title, I want him to work for it yeah and Pekka is going to make him work.

00:56:01.204 --> 00:56:01.987
I don't want it to be.

00:56:01.987 --> 00:56:05.541
Well, he was on the ducati and you just watch pekka.

00:56:05.541 --> 00:56:08.710
I want it to be because he already proved.

00:56:08.710 --> 00:56:13.146
When people say, well, you can't win on another bike, well, he won three races last year and a 23.

00:56:13.146 --> 00:56:16.773
That's, that's, that's already.

00:56:16.773 --> 00:56:27.967
Um, he already answered that question, right, so it's it's Alex Rins.

00:56:27.987 --> 00:56:33.161
I'm a bit worried for Alex Rins yeah, because you said he's still carrying that injury from two years ago.

00:56:33.541 --> 00:56:34.887
I mean, I saw him when he was hobbling.

00:56:35.148 --> 00:56:38.550
This is this is a make or break year for him.

00:56:38.550 --> 00:57:00.722
Yeah, because I think if he doesn't perform, if yama gets the bike right and he's still not performing, he's, he's out the door, he's gone next year and it's likely they could move, because in the satellite team it's um jack miller and bit and who's olivier, olivier.

00:57:00.722 --> 00:57:09.969
Olivier could get that man out, jump up to the factory team and let's be honest, olivier is not that bad of a rider.

00:57:09.969 --> 00:57:11.693
He's a decent rider.

00:57:11.914 --> 00:57:22.090
So, yeah, so people so he's he's on the chopping block um ktms up in the air.

00:57:22.090 --> 00:57:26.094
Will they even finish the year, given their financial situation?

00:57:26.155 --> 00:57:26.775
I think they will.

00:57:29.608 --> 00:57:30.632
I think they will.

00:57:30.632 --> 00:57:35.014
Well, the sport needs them to finish the year.

00:57:35.014 --> 00:57:41.164
If not, Carmelita Espoleta whatever you pronounce his name might have to step in and, kind of like, fund them until the end of the season.

00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:52.336
I think there's rumors that they're getting getting that there's some investors that are interested and since we recorded this on sunday, news came out on monday that bmw was actually interested in purchasing ktm.

00:57:52.336 --> 00:58:04.963
However, on tuesday, the peer mobility group has announced that the ktm ag's restructuring plan to pay back their creditors and ensure survival was accepted in a regional court in austria.

00:58:04.963 --> 00:58:07.731
That's good for ktm.

00:58:07.731 --> 00:58:10.260
I'm happy that, um, they're getting a lifeline.

00:58:10.260 --> 00:58:13.110
That's good for motor gp.

00:58:13.110 --> 00:58:15.458
Um, I'm happy that people got to keep their jobs.

00:58:15.458 --> 00:58:18.324
You know, you never want to see people lose your jobs.

00:58:18.324 --> 00:58:27.990
Um, yeah, but that means that one segment of the podcast is going to be totally edited out, because that's not old news.

00:58:27.990 --> 00:58:38.226
So I'm just gonna go right into the predictions podium predictions for this weekend's race and motor two and motor three and we'll just wrap it up.

00:58:38.226 --> 00:58:41.251
What are?

00:58:41.251 --> 00:58:44.755
What are your podium predictions for opening race?

00:58:45.536 --> 00:58:46.719
all right, hear me out.

00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:48.184
Pecker for the win.

00:58:48.184 --> 00:58:56.103
Yeah, mark second, alex third.

00:58:56.103 --> 00:59:00.126
I think it's going to be a yammer, it's going to be a.

00:59:00.126 --> 00:59:01.789
It's going to be a definitely a Ducati whitewash.

00:59:01.789 --> 00:59:13.378
I think it's definitely a Ducati whitewash, but I'm going, I'm giving Peke a win just for just to be to jump off the Mark Mark Marcus bandwagon.

00:59:18.313 --> 00:59:19.076
I'm going to give Peke a win.

00:59:19.076 --> 00:59:21.146
Okay, I'm going to go with the same podium.

00:59:21.146 --> 00:59:23.072
You're going to what?

00:59:23.072 --> 00:59:24.177
I'm going gonna go with the same podium.

00:59:24.177 --> 00:59:24.557
You're gonna what?

00:59:24.557 --> 00:59:25.481
I'm gonna go to the same podium.

00:59:25.481 --> 00:59:26.965
I'm gonna go with Alex Marcus for the win.

00:59:26.965 --> 00:59:37.027
Really, yeah, I'm a good Alex Marcus, followed by Mark and pickle Alex.

00:59:37.027 --> 00:59:47.036
Reason why, when Alex, he's got the most fine-tuned bike motorcycle on them but but.

00:59:47.175 --> 00:59:49.460
I mean I don't know how far it's gonna be, I don't know.

00:59:49.460 --> 00:59:50.322
That's the thing I don't know.

00:59:50.322 --> 00:59:56.094
But I'm just saying new season, the GP 24.9.

00:59:56.094 --> 00:59:58.304
I don't know what's going on.

00:59:58.304 --> 01:00:01.630
Right, it might be super quick out of blocks.

01:00:01.630 --> 01:00:02.954
He's already showed that it's a quick bike.

01:00:02.954 --> 01:00:13.945
But when you're coming off, uh, starting a new season, and then there's a bike that won the championship last year, it's already dialed it so it's both.

01:00:14.266 --> 01:00:20.168
But that's the problem with that doing that is, those who are on 25 spec bike.

01:00:20.168 --> 01:00:21.451
You don't know how much they're going to improve.

01:00:21.451 --> 01:00:25.925
Those who are on 25 spec bike, you don't know how much they're going to improve.

01:00:25.925 --> 01:00:28.788
That's why I said that to you, because the Yamaha jumped what?

01:00:28.807 --> 01:00:33.934
8 tenths in Sepang, yeah, but bear in mind that Ducati doesn't always come out of plastic.

01:00:33.934 --> 01:00:35.916
Well, with a new bike.

01:00:41.853 --> 01:00:43.820
A Ducati might win, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a new one.

01:00:43.820 --> 01:00:47.445
That's true because, if I remember, last year they didn't start the season with a full spec gp24.

01:00:47.465 --> 01:00:54.311
Did they um, they started, um, they started, they start struggling because they didn't figure out the chattering from the new tires.

01:00:54.331 --> 01:01:05.065
So that's why I'm going with the 2024 and you see, this is what this goes back to our argument about what the team's seeing on the data, because again there's a lot of things to factor in.

01:01:05.065 --> 01:01:06.389
Tyres is the biggest.

01:01:06.389 --> 01:01:09.288
Tyres determines how fast you go on a bike.

01:01:09.980 --> 01:01:11.967
Yeah, the black things are the most important.

01:01:12.139 --> 01:01:14.407
Because it's the only thing the teams have in common.

01:01:15.771 --> 01:01:19.634
Yeah, yeah.

01:01:19.634 --> 01:01:20.400
So that's my prediction.

01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:30.173
I'm going to go with Alex Marcus, just because he's got a dialed in bike um mark peko who's and I'm bringing.

01:01:30.253 --> 01:01:33.726
I'm having fabio bringing up the rear fabio bringing up the rear.

01:01:33.965 --> 01:01:40.507
I'm gonna go with um for the because he's injured.

01:01:40.507 --> 01:01:42.331
It's probably going to be tough for him.

01:01:42.331 --> 01:01:51.670
Because he's injured, it's probably going to be tough for him bringing up the rear.

01:01:51.670 --> 01:01:52.333
I'ma go bezeki.

01:01:52.333 --> 01:02:04.824
I'ma go bezeki, i'ma go top rookie firman for the first i'ma go firman for the first thing.

01:02:04.824 --> 01:02:10.797
I'm gonna go firman ayagura and then chantere in the back okay, yeah, oh okay.

01:02:10.836 --> 01:02:11.518
That's the rookie.

01:02:11.518 --> 01:02:18.001
That's the rookie placement, because I was thinking you're bringing you put ayagura finishing up high in the start in the race.

01:02:18.081 --> 01:02:22.170
Now the rookies rookies, um, but yeah, that's the predictions.

01:02:26.775 --> 01:02:27.038
Moto 2.

01:02:27.038 --> 01:02:32.342
Yeah, who is the?

01:02:32.342 --> 01:02:33.246
Is Sergio Garcia.

01:02:33.246 --> 01:02:34.505
What's the kid named from?

01:02:34.505 --> 01:02:40.489
Is it the Colombian who won the Moto 3 championship, david Alonso?

01:02:40.489 --> 01:02:46.748
David Alonso Because he's the first Colombian to ever win one of those top flight championships.

01:02:46.748 --> 01:02:54.047
They've never had one before, and I think he could surprise a lot of people.

01:02:54.047 --> 01:02:58.108
But, I know you're a reasoning already.

01:02:58.108 --> 01:02:59.050
I know you're a reasoning.

01:02:59.242 --> 01:03:02.445
I think he could come good over it, but I don't think he's going to feature in the first races.

01:03:02.445 --> 01:03:04.010
Really, why not?

01:03:04.010 --> 01:03:06.742
I just don't see it In his testing.

01:03:06.742 --> 01:03:07.706
He was like what?

01:03:07.706 --> 01:03:11.349
He was 15, 12 and something over the days of testing.

01:03:11.349 --> 01:03:12.512
No, it's only testing.

01:03:12.512 --> 01:03:17.327
I think he's going to come good, but I'm giving him like four races.

01:03:18.851 --> 01:03:19.032
Okay.

01:03:19.300 --> 01:03:24.309
Maybe half a season to really get up to speed, because I said, you know, that's just my take.

01:03:24.309 --> 01:03:27.313
If he comes good before that, I'm happy for him.

01:03:29.382 --> 01:03:29.831
So who's your favorite?

01:03:29.851 --> 01:03:30.300
for the championship.

01:03:32.202 --> 01:03:33.085
For the motor.

01:03:33.085 --> 01:03:34.250
What's my guy's name?

01:03:34.250 --> 01:03:34.510
Again?

01:03:34.510 --> 01:03:37.929
He rode for the Mount VDS team last year.

01:03:37.929 --> 01:03:40.507
Fabio's friend, best mate.

01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:42.561
Tony Arbolino.

01:03:43.103 --> 01:03:45.451
Yeah, where is he at.

01:03:46.041 --> 01:03:47.961
Tony Arbolino is at.

01:03:47.961 --> 01:03:49.206
Where is he at now?

01:03:49.206 --> 01:03:50.565
He's switched.

01:03:50.565 --> 01:03:54.487
Let me tell you where he's at, because I just added him in my notes right here.

01:03:54.487 --> 01:04:03.001
He's at the Pramac Yamaha team, mounted 2, team Blue Crew.

01:04:03.001 --> 01:04:05.445
Pramac Yamaha is where Mototu team Blue crew.

01:04:05.465 --> 01:04:08.353
Pramac Yamaha is where he's at.

01:04:08.353 --> 01:04:08.753
Who's that again?

01:04:08.753 --> 01:04:09.193
Tony Abilene.

01:04:09.193 --> 01:04:20.210
Yeah, yeah, yeah, see, but I think the favourite for this championship should be what's my boy's name?

01:04:20.210 --> 01:04:22.186
Is Kenneth still in Mototu?

01:04:22.186 --> 01:04:27.045
I was going to say Kenneth should be the favourite.

01:04:27.045 --> 01:04:28.909
How long has kenneth been in?

01:04:28.909 --> 01:04:33.278
Motor 2 long jesus, long yo that dude's name been around for so long.

01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:41.990
Like it's, like he's part of furniture he should be favorite, but, um, these, these are some riders to look out for for for me from my list, right.

01:04:43.014 --> 01:05:09.068
So sergio garcia, if he hopefully recovers from what happened that meltdown last year yeah, because the way, because the way he started last season, I was like yo, this kid's gonna run away with the championship he reminded me of um what's his name chelestino v v80 a couple years ago a couple years ago where he started like a house on fire and then you're just like, okay, what's going on?

01:05:09.068 --> 01:05:15.668
The guy I think he crashed like in seven street races are you like you know what's going on.

01:05:15.789 --> 01:05:27.043
He didn't do too bad last year but he started well, but he's a fast rider because he's on the ktm yeah, he's a fast rider he's on the ktm?

01:05:27.043 --> 01:05:27.583
No, he's in the ktm.

01:05:27.583 --> 01:05:31.210
No, he's on a no v8 um chilistino v80.

01:05:31.251 --> 01:05:32.132
He's on the ktm.

01:05:32.913 --> 01:05:38.608
He rode for ktm last year no, there hasn't been a ktm in motor 2 for a minute.

01:05:38.608 --> 01:05:43.735
No, no, the you mean the Red Bull IoT?

01:05:44.701 --> 01:05:45.644
Yeah, the Red Bull.

01:05:45.644 --> 01:05:46.864
Yeah, that's what I meant to say.

01:05:46.864 --> 01:05:49.369
Sorry, the Red Bull IoT, my bad.

01:05:49.900 --> 01:05:56.134
He's gone to a SUP racing Super.

01:05:56.134 --> 01:05:59.648
So these are my riders to watch, right?

01:05:59.648 --> 01:06:06.987
If I'm basing it, I've just Kennett should really come good this year.

01:06:06.987 --> 01:06:11.206
Well, you know, aaron Kennett, I'm not putting any money in that, I'm just putting words on that.

01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:19.467
I think if he stays injury-free, because remember a couple of years ago he had some bad injuries- and he also didn't know to win races.

01:06:19.467 --> 01:06:27.405
Yeah, and I think last year he came kind of yeah, he seemed last year, but right as to watch sergio garcia.

01:06:27.666 --> 01:06:31.072
Um, who's jar hargan navarro?

01:06:31.192 --> 01:06:35.994
he's back on the grid we'll get, we'll get navarre, because he was in um well super.

01:06:35.994 --> 01:06:38.869
Yeah, he was in world super school last year and he did some wild cards last year in motor 20.

01:06:38.889 --> 01:06:40.579
He did well, and he did some wild cards last year in Moto2 and he did well.

01:06:40.579 --> 01:06:44.885
I'm glad to see that Barabal just got a ride.

01:06:44.885 --> 01:06:51.619
He's not a top guy, but he's a safe pair of hands, right?

01:06:51.619 --> 01:06:53.980
So, sergio Garcia?

01:06:53.980 --> 01:07:02.748
So this is my list for Moto2 riders to watch for me Sergio Garcia, diego Marrera.

01:07:02.748 --> 01:07:07.923
Who else do I have on my list?

01:07:07.923 --> 01:07:10.552
Alonso Lopez.

01:07:10.552 --> 01:07:15.204
We already said Kenneth, right.

01:07:16.750 --> 01:07:28.114
Yep and I think I think Kenneth and Sergio Garcia should be favourites and I think based on the team should be favourites and I think, based on the team that he's in and now he's got it under his belt, I think I'ma look at Denis Antrou.

01:07:28.114 --> 01:07:32.804
He's in the Red Bull KTMIO but was he?

01:07:32.925 --> 01:07:33.688
he wasn't there last year.

01:07:33.688 --> 01:07:37.320
I think that was his first year in the team so he's got a year under his belt.

01:07:37.460 --> 01:07:41.047
So so, and then I'm a wild card, David Alonso.

01:07:41.047 --> 01:07:43.773
Jake Dixon's also there, but I'm not putting him on my list.

01:07:45.340 --> 01:07:48.150
Yeah, but what about the Californian Roberts?

01:07:48.619 --> 01:07:52.291
He's there too, but I'm not putting him on my list either Okay.

01:07:52.291 --> 01:07:57.166
I still think you got these young hot ends like Diego Marrera, sergio Garcia.

01:07:57.166 --> 01:08:13.570
If David Alonso comes, good, um, I'm not putting um, um roberts above, like kenneth, nah, right.

01:08:13.570 --> 01:08:15.032
So, which is why I didn't make my list.

01:08:15.353 --> 01:08:26.194
Um, and there's also colin buyer, but there yeah, he's the dutch yeah, so he's um, he's dennis antro's teammate, so let's see how that works out.

01:08:26.194 --> 01:08:30.380
Let's see if he's gonna give dennis antro a whooping or dennis antro is gonna come to the fourth.

01:08:30.380 --> 01:08:35.046
Um, yeah, that's really my list.

01:08:35.046 --> 01:08:38.770
Um, I like that list I like that list.

01:08:39.131 --> 01:08:48.787
I like that list, but I think for me I want to look at that the Moto3 champion I, he's this just something David Alonso, he's special.

01:08:48.787 --> 01:08:51.041
Yeah, Because you know what you know.

01:08:51.041 --> 01:08:56.407
His season reminds me of Marquez's 1-2-5 Moto3 season 2010?

01:08:56.407 --> 01:08:56.407
.

01:08:56.407 --> 01:08:57.930
Yeah.

01:08:58.591 --> 01:08:58.792
Yep.

01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:02.921
The kid, I mean he won what he had.

01:09:02.921 --> 01:09:04.969
What he had what 13 poles in the row.

01:09:04.969 --> 01:09:07.646
I think he had what?

01:09:07.646 --> 01:09:27.164
13 poles the whole entire year Because he had 12, and he had 13 people in his team and he got 12 poles and he needed one more because, you know, they got the Tissot watches and I think he got the pole in the last race of the year and he ended up giving it to the last engineer and he said that was his goal.

01:09:27.164 --> 01:09:33.056
The kid, I don't know, there's something special about him, so I'm interested to see how he performs.

01:09:33.801 --> 01:09:38.430
You know what's crazy about his campaign last year?

01:09:38.430 --> 01:09:40.033
Mm-hmm.

01:09:40.033 --> 01:09:48.952
His lowest finish was 11th, right and besides that.

01:09:48.952 --> 01:10:00.319
So he's been out of the top 3 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 for the whole season of 20 races.

01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:02.146
He's only been out of the top 3 5 times.

01:10:02.146 --> 01:10:03.689
He won 4th place, won 11th, won, won, won, four, five.

01:10:03.689 --> 01:10:04.109
For the whole season of 20 races, he's only been out of the top three five times.

01:10:04.109 --> 01:10:08.462
He won fourth place, won 11th, won, won, won fifth.

01:10:08.921 --> 01:10:10.984
How many wins did he have About 10.

01:10:10.984 --> 01:10:12.287
What?

01:10:13.889 --> 01:10:14.789
What 15.

01:10:14.789 --> 01:10:16.792
Out of 20.

01:10:18.435 --> 01:10:19.015
Jesus.

01:10:19.015 --> 01:10:22.704
I mean that's an.

01:10:22.704 --> 01:10:25.199
You know he's special 14.

01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:31.426
You know that's special because you're talking about a spec series.

01:10:31.426 --> 01:10:33.988
No, it's not.

01:10:33.988 --> 01:10:34.609
Is it spec?

01:10:34.609 --> 01:10:42.423
Yeah, because all the bikes, the engines, are pretty much different manufacturers, different manufacturers, but they're pretty much the same spec, just different chassis.

01:10:42.423 --> 01:10:42.704
And 14.

01:10:42.704 --> 01:10:46.902
Different manufacturers, different manufacturers, but they're pretty much the same spec, just different chassis and 14.

01:10:46.902 --> 01:10:54.204
The kid's special and I think he just needs to land himself in the right situation.

01:10:54.204 --> 01:10:57.764
I hope where he is now in motor 2 is that situation for him.

01:10:57.764 --> 01:10:59.047
You know where I'm going to put him.

01:10:59.488 --> 01:11:00.612
Yeah, you know where I'm going to put him.

01:11:00.612 --> 01:11:13.662
I'm really going gonna put him up there right, even though I say it's probably gonna take him a couple races to get up to speed right, it didn't take him long to get.

01:11:13.662 --> 01:11:28.587
So like, if you look at um one rivera, even though he he kind of he did well in his championship winning season, he wasn't a hot hand coming straight on a motor 3 bike.

01:11:28.587 --> 01:11:36.060
And the thing is sometimes when you look at a lot of these champions, you have to look at the years when they didn't win the championship.

01:11:36.060 --> 01:11:38.609
Who were they competing against?

01:11:40.105 --> 01:11:44.680
yep because, if you look at it like a Jamal Masi, I was over in super sports.

01:11:44.701 --> 01:11:48.533
He had a great race yeah, uh, where did he finish?

01:11:48.673 --> 01:11:51.162
he ended up getting a three second penalty in the first race.

01:11:51.162 --> 01:11:55.850
Um, you gotta look at a lot of these guys.

01:11:55.850 --> 01:12:00.266
They're in these championships for a while and a lot of time.

01:12:00.266 --> 01:12:05.666
When the top dogs, the real hot ants, win the championship, move on.

01:12:05.666 --> 01:12:16.130
That's when these guys win yeah, because there's nobody left sometimes you gotta look at how, so you gotta look at a lot of these guys out there winning these championships who was the award of competitors at the time?

01:12:17.268 --> 01:12:18.396
because you know who's going back down to.

01:12:18.436 --> 01:12:18.800
Moto3.

01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:20.265
Who?

01:12:20.265 --> 01:12:21.364
Dennis Fajier?

01:12:21.364 --> 01:12:23.110
What you know?

01:12:23.131 --> 01:12:24.176
who's going back down to Moto3?

01:12:24.176 --> 01:12:24.257
Who?

01:12:24.257 --> 01:12:24.559
Denis Faggia?

01:12:27.189 --> 01:12:27.329
What?

01:12:27.329 --> 01:12:29.467
And Denis Faggia, there was no slouch in Moto3.

01:12:29.467 --> 01:12:32.724
Didn't get on with the big bikes.

01:12:35.711 --> 01:12:40.310
Yeah, I think that's his career in MotoGP Dead.

01:12:40.310 --> 01:12:41.444
He's never making MotoGP, got it.

01:12:41.444 --> 01:12:42.750
He's never making MotoGP dead.

01:12:42.750 --> 01:12:44.719
He's never making MotoGP.

01:12:44.719 --> 01:12:47.242
He's never making MotoGP without.

01:12:49.384 --> 01:12:53.555
That's like door, that's they close the door.

01:12:53.555 --> 01:12:55.367
The slammer.

01:12:55.539 --> 01:12:57.646
They close every single door.

01:12:57.646 --> 01:13:01.859
There's no way you can't go from Moto2 back down to Moto3.

01:13:02.020 --> 01:13:04.970
I think you're going to make it up to MotoGP yeah he's out of here.

01:13:05.863 --> 01:13:07.240
That's done Pretty much.

01:13:07.240 --> 01:13:10.530
His career is going to end up probably being Super Sport.

01:13:10.530 --> 01:13:15.233
I don't even think he's going to end up at Superbike Super Sport is going to end up for his life.

01:13:16.921 --> 01:13:30.520
I was wondering why he didn't go to Super Sport, but I guess if he's getting a if he's getting a chance to stay in the paddock.

01:13:30.539 --> 01:13:38.748
He's still in the paddock and whilst we think he probably won't get a motor GP right, he could get still end up getting another motor tool right Next year.

01:13:38.748 --> 01:13:39.971
Yeah, so it's still.

01:13:39.971 --> 01:13:41.786
You still want to be in motor GP?

01:13:41.786 --> 01:13:51.207
Yeah, definitely, if you can be being there, because, again, it's where you want to be, say where everybody wants to be yeah, so that, yeah, but but that's it.

01:13:51.429 --> 01:13:55.362
That's it for him, though yeah, it's pretty much dead.

01:13:55.521 --> 01:13:57.506
That's moto gp career dead.

01:13:57.506 --> 01:14:02.554
But anyway, moto 3 I don't know what's going on in Moto3.

01:14:02.554 --> 01:14:06.738
I don't know who's in Moto3 that I can look at and say yeah.

01:14:06.738 --> 01:14:16.664
So you're probably going to have to fill me in on that one there's a few guys there's, there's, there's another protege coming up.

01:14:16.779 --> 01:14:17.664
I'm trying to find him.

01:14:17.664 --> 01:14:37.466
Max Quiles I think his name is pronounced max.

01:14:37.466 --> 01:14:38.929
What quiles, quiles, q-u-i-l-e-s.

01:14:38.929 --> 01:14:42.655
Pardon if I butchered his name q-u-i-l-e-s quiles.

01:14:42.655 --> 01:14:43.537
Now, I really butchered that.

01:14:43.537 --> 01:14:50.390
Well, I didn't say I was an English major, so Let me see where the line up is.

01:14:51.286 --> 01:14:52.131
Let me see where it is.

01:14:52.131 --> 01:14:55.966
They don't even have him On the list yet.

01:14:55.966 --> 01:14:59.409
Oh yeah, they got him.

01:14:59.409 --> 01:15:11.063
Cfmoto Aspar Maximo Quills.

01:15:11.063 --> 01:15:11.564
Oh yeah, they got him.

01:15:11.564 --> 01:15:13.170
Cf moto aspar maxi maximo quills, spanish.

01:15:13.170 --> 01:15:13.853
Yeah, so this is him.

01:15:13.853 --> 01:15:14.775
Yeah, he's, his name is track record.

01:15:14.775 --> 01:15:19.064
Yeah, I found, but there was no picture yeah, they said um okay, no, this is.

01:15:19.125 --> 01:15:25.172
this is a replacement rider, but it seems like he's going to start the season.

01:15:25.793 --> 01:15:26.795
Yeah, he's not starting.

01:15:30.182 --> 01:15:30.990
The Aspar team has announced that.

01:15:30.990 --> 01:15:31.636
Max, what do you say?

01:15:31.636 --> 01:15:34.408
You pronounce it Maximo Quills Q-U-I-L-E-S.

01:15:34.659 --> 01:15:40.668
Will be replaced by Jacob Rassen-Aylor in the opening races at the upcoming 2025 Moto3 World Championship.

01:15:40.668 --> 01:15:53.926
I can see that to the spanish writer, always under management of mark marquez, but rather his age, jacob rossenthaler for the replacement yeah, so this kid is on uh.

01:15:54.528 --> 01:15:57.234
So this is the kid that I saw with mark and um.

01:15:57.234 --> 01:15:59.400
You know what?

01:15:59.400 --> 01:16:01.666
Everyone that listen, I take it back.

01:16:01.666 --> 01:16:07.948
This is a kid that I saw with uh, mark and david alonso, because you know they train together.

01:16:07.948 --> 01:16:12.202
So now that I'm thinking about it, david alonso should be okay.

01:16:12.202 --> 01:16:14.788
Now if he's training with mark and alex, he should be all right.

01:16:14.788 --> 01:16:19.588
It means that he's been riding a big motorcycle I tell you that.

01:16:19.689 --> 01:16:21.693
I tell you the boy is gonna be good in motor too.

01:16:21.693 --> 01:16:22.395
Man, just watch this.

01:16:22.395 --> 01:16:23.002
So I didn't say it was not gonna be good in Moto 2, just watch this.

01:16:24.030 --> 01:16:25.020
I didn't say he was not going to be good.

01:16:25.020 --> 01:16:36.493
I think he's going to come good quicker than I'm anticipating well, let's see, let's see yeah, so, yeah.

01:16:36.493 --> 01:16:37.439
So Moto 3.

01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:42.420
We'll just touch on that briefly for anyone listening.

01:16:42.420 --> 01:16:51.346
If you want to watch MotoGP, if it's not broadcasted in your country, you could just go online and get it MotoGPcom and get yourself a MotoGP pass.

01:16:51.346 --> 01:17:02.319
It's worth the money because you also get to watch the historical races and you've got some banners on that historical races man some proper.

01:17:03.925 --> 01:17:10.671
Was it malaysia 2015, marquez rossi australia 2015 as well.

01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.064
There's a lot of lorenzo, yeah.

01:17:15.064 --> 01:17:31.708
So yeah, I think moto gp subscription video pass is actually a great bang for buck, because for anyone who's new to the sport, they really want to go back and just watch some stuff from and I think yeah, just be in mind, a lot of those videos are going to look like it's taped on vhs, because it probably was.

01:17:32.229 --> 01:17:33.271
Yeah, it looks crazy.

01:17:33.271 --> 01:17:34.280
I tried to watch it the other day.

01:17:34.280 --> 01:17:47.475
I'm like wow, if you go back and watch casey stoner's 2007, isn't that video quality is terrible and 2007 isn't really long ago, is it nope that was.

01:17:47.661 --> 01:17:59.524
That was what 18 years ago that tells you how far we've come with video technology and everything else actually, when you thought, when you think about it in 2007 seems like it was just yesterday, but 18 years has.

01:17:59.524 --> 01:18:00.145
It's a little.

01:18:00.164 --> 01:18:02.931
It's a little uh my bones are creaking more now.

01:18:02.931 --> 01:18:06.506
All right, and so for me, uh, motor three.

01:18:06.506 --> 01:18:09.002
As you see it, you don't um know a lot.

01:18:09.021 --> 01:18:14.582
Yeah, I don't really follow much of the riders in motor three that much edrian fernandez, which is um.

01:18:15.824 --> 01:18:22.056
Ralph fernandez, younger brother, he, he, he did decent on the back end of the season, so I'm looking at what he's gonna do.

01:18:22.056 --> 01:18:30.900
Um, I'm looking at this maximo kid as well, and there's another person that I'm looking at which is going to be.

01:18:30.900 --> 01:18:32.042
Where is he at?

01:18:32.042 --> 01:18:34.826
Uh, where is he at?

01:18:34.826 --> 01:18:42.456
I'll say, antonio rueda is one to look out for too yeah, he's.

01:18:43.363 --> 01:18:50.947
He's the one that they said smashed the lap record where they did the test yeah, ah, this is the guy I'm looking for.

01:18:53.295 --> 01:18:55.195
How do you pronounce Angel in Spanish?

01:18:55.195 --> 01:18:57.663
Angel, angel, angel.

01:18:57.703 --> 01:18:59.302
Piqueiras, he's not a rookie, is he?

01:18:59.302 --> 01:18:59.764
He was there last year.

01:18:59.764 --> 01:19:00.225
He was there last year.

01:19:00.225 --> 01:19:01.189
He's not a rookie is he?

01:19:01.328 --> 01:19:02.051
He was there last year.

01:19:02.051 --> 01:19:02.774
He was there last year.

01:19:02.774 --> 01:19:07.528
He's not a rookie, I'm just saying more riders to watch for the 2025 Moto3 season.

01:19:07.528 --> 01:19:19.247
So I got Angel Piqueiras, Adrian Fernandez, Maximo Quals, Jose Antonio Rueda.

01:19:20.712 --> 01:19:25.824
Yeah, I think the Moto3 season might be the more exciting of the three.

01:19:25.824 --> 01:19:33.466
Yeah, because, again, you know these guys are young, they're hungry, they want to prove themselves, they want to.

01:19:33.466 --> 01:19:38.149
You know they're in the shopping window for a move up to Moto2.

01:19:38.149 --> 01:19:40.228
So they're going to be hungry.

01:19:40.228 --> 01:19:54.640
But you know, just to recap the season going forward, motogp, marc Marquez, pekka Bagnaia will be the feature story for the whole entire season.

01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:59.328
Whole will you know, until someone throws a spanner in the works and shock us.

01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:02.563
Yeah, but I can't see any.

01:20:02.563 --> 01:20:03.912
That would have to be the a spanner in the works and shockers.

01:20:03.912 --> 01:20:04.456
Yeah, but I can't see any.

01:20:04.456 --> 01:20:04.798
I can't see any.

01:20:04.798 --> 01:20:15.069
That would have to be the biggest spanner ever made, because right now the ducati, I think the ducati, even if they go back to the 24 bike, will be any other 25 bike on the grid.

01:20:15.069 --> 01:20:21.328
It's that good a bike, you know, but everything would come down depends on um.

01:20:21.328 --> 01:20:23.511
How is it michelin?

01:20:23.532 --> 01:20:27.184
they use right yeah, it's the same tires from last year.

01:20:27.184 --> 01:20:29.451
It's consistent, they haven't changed the tires.

01:20:29.859 --> 01:20:30.322
So they haven't.

01:20:30.322 --> 01:20:31.344
So there you go.

01:20:31.344 --> 01:20:32.527
So they have.

01:20:32.527 --> 01:20:34.612
They have that data that they can work with.

01:20:34.612 --> 01:20:45.926
So it's going to be I'm looking, just like with the other categories, formula one I'm looking forward to see what this season entails for everybody and I hope you know it delivers.

01:20:45.926 --> 01:20:46.546
I want to see.

01:20:46.546 --> 01:21:02.654
I want to see if, like you said, if marcus was to win the championship I don't want it to be a at a canter, I want to see peko all right, anyone who can step up yeah, I don't see anyone outside of a Ducati stepping up.

01:21:03.341 --> 01:21:05.582
It can only be a Ducati rider.

01:21:05.582 --> 01:21:08.386
There's no other bike out there better than the Ducati.

01:21:08.426 --> 01:21:09.949
That's what I'm saying.

01:21:09.949 --> 01:21:10.992
What if?

01:21:10.992 --> 01:21:13.435
What if Digi and Antonio steps up Like he's on?

01:21:13.435 --> 01:21:14.778
You know, you never know.

01:21:14.778 --> 01:21:21.166
Any Ducati rider could step up, you know, on any given sunday or throughout the season.

01:21:21.166 --> 01:21:22.109
Let's just wait and see.

01:21:22.109 --> 01:21:28.534
The more the more, the merrier for me definitely definitely, the more, the more, the merrier for me.

01:21:28.534 --> 01:21:30.341
So, um, I'm all good with that.

01:21:30.341 --> 01:21:40.123
Um, actually, we also have a fantasy, so if I'm actually going to post it on, so we're going to set up a fantasy league we have a motor MotoGP fantasy.

01:21:40.144 --> 01:21:41.988
I already set it up already the Grand Prix project.

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I'm going to share it on.

01:21:48.545 --> 01:21:49.065
Let me see what it says.

01:21:49.065 --> 01:21:51.451
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Let me share this now and then I'm just going to pin it.

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Okay, let's do this.

01:22:06.514 --> 01:22:07.635
Let me switch this around.

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Yeah, I'm gonna post it on x x.

01:22:23.452 --> 01:22:25.577
Yeah, just put it out there so we can get some.

01:22:25.577 --> 01:22:27.060
See if we can get some people involved.

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And we have to put some prizes, though for whoever wins the league, get him some merch yeah, that's when those come.

01:22:35.104 --> 01:22:37.050
They're designed, but I just haven't.

01:22:37.050 --> 01:22:39.161
I have to find the right supply.

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Supply.

01:22:40.362 --> 01:22:42.064
I got designs and everything, as you've seen.

01:22:42.064 --> 01:22:43.305
You like the designs?

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Yeah, definitely.

01:22:45.189 --> 01:22:58.136
Yeah, I got some cool designs, so we just need to find the right, because I just don't want just to go get any old T-shirt or any old.

01:22:58.136 --> 01:23:07.591
You know, I like quality stuff, so I like to give people quality stuff, so I'll take my time on those and when the time is right, they will see.

01:23:08.381 --> 01:23:09.587
We don't do cheapness over here.

01:23:12.421 --> 01:23:17.512
Ultimately, it's just about trying my best to make it affordable as well.

01:23:17.512 --> 01:23:26.914
So that's one of the tricks that I run is because the more affordable, the cheaper the material and the build quality.

01:23:26.914 --> 01:23:33.051
So that's something that I'm tussling with right now, but I'll figure it out.

01:23:33.051 --> 01:23:36.951
I'm sure I'll figure it out, okay, cool.

01:23:36.951 --> 01:23:39.988
So, yeah, we're just going to wrap this one up.

01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:44.752
This is a quick fire into MotoGP opener.

01:23:44.752 --> 01:23:48.390
As I said, once the season gets going, we'll have a lot more to discuss.

01:23:48.390 --> 01:24:02.315
You know, we're going to invite more people on and, yeah, if you're an avid MotoGP fan, or even if you're just someone that is just getting into the sport, casual, casual Just let us know.

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Follow us on on x on twitter, all right, the grand prix project pot, the gp project pod, and, yeah, you know, we're going to be inviting on some people as we go along.

01:24:17.371 --> 01:24:19.538
As I said, this is actually video recorded.

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I just haven't posted the videos, um.

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