Hamilton’s Ferrari Struggles: Man or Machine?

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Once again to the Grand Prix Project Podcast.

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This is the F1 edition Saudi Arabian Grand Prix review.

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With me your host Andre Miller.

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And once again my co-host Neil G.

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AKA.

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What's up?

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Yeah, South Arabian Grand Prix.

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It was a good weekend, you want to take it away with qualifying?

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You want to kind of recap qualifying?

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Yeah, qualifying in itself was a bit pretty much standard up until we got to Q3.

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The usual suspects made it to Q3, two Ferraris, two McLarens, pardon me, two Red Bulls, two Mercs, and I think the two Williams made it into Q3.

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I think I could be wrong.

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think so.

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Yeah, the two Williams made it into Q3 as well.

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But, you know, where it all started to go wrong was on the first run.

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I mean, Oscar put in a blister in lap to set provisional pole and then his teammate behind him, Lando, been the, is it coming out of, what's that?

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That's one, two, three, four, think coming out at turn five.

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I think it's the same place that Mick Schumacher crashed the first time around.

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It could be another corner, put it in the wall, red flag again, yet again, not another mistake from Lando, which I'm sure you'd be happy about because he'd be saying Lando been making too many mistakes, et cetera, et cetera.

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I think he, Lando himself, recognized that, yeah, he's making too many mistakes and His mistake seems to come on a Saturday more than on a Sunday, because on a Sunday, he's pretty much stale out with his performance on a Sunday.

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put it in the wall, boom, everybody's ground plan got messed up.

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But Red Bull, of quick thinking Red Bull as they are, when the Red Flag, the session resumed, they kind of went like hard.

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And you know what?

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We still have two fresh tires left because Max was building up to start his first qualifying run when the red flag came out.

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So his tires didn't get used.

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It was kind of like a scrub set.

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So they just went, you know what we're going to do?

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We're going to fuel you for two quality laps.

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So in total, I think he had about six laps worth of An in lap, a quality lap, an out lap, quality lap, in lap.

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then an out lap, quality lap, then the lap back to the in lap basically again.

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So his first run, I think he, if I remember correctly, I think he's on his first run, he was, I think he played second, I can't remember.

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Then George, then, he was kind of like the only one that did two runs actually.

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Iman Oskar, the only ones that managed to do two runs, because I think they both had two sets of tyres left.

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But it was the last run that was kind of like here exhilarating.

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George Russell first, bam.

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You know, George Russell gave you one of those George Russell laps.

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Put it on pole, provisional pole by about 10th and a half.

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Then Oskar popped up, bam, took it back.

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I think Oskar took it by about, I think a 10th as well.

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They're not, not on know which Charles turned up, bam, put his on P3.

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So we left Max and you just, I dunno, the first sector for Max was blistering.

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The first, I think it was the quickest first sector the entire weekend.

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Thanks to a tour from Yuki because Red Bull, they timed that perfectly as Yuki finished his, finishing his lab.

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He was getting, giving max a tour.

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He was up about 10th in the first sector, middle sector.

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He dropped a lot of time and he was, I think he was about half a 10th down on what Asuka had done.

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But that final sector, he just kind of like, he just threw caution to the wind and to take it by was it 0.010 of a second.

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I saw what's his name, this from designer guy, Mark Lane, worked it out and said that worked out to be something like seven millimeters.

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That's over, over based on the time, the time.

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Yeah.

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0.010 works out to be something like seven millimeters or seven centimeters.

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So that's how much that's so close pole was.

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I think this was one of the closest pole positions we've had.

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I can, if memory serves me correctly.

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I'd probably be say going back to Singapore 2014 when Lewis Edge Rosberg, but I think could be wrong.

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think by 0.007 of a seconds, but either way.

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Yeah.

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It was one of the closest qualifiers we've had so far this year.

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And again, Max doing what Max does is once he sniffs an opportunity.

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He's going to go hell and all to try and seize that opportunity.

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And you know what mean?

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He did his thing, put it on Paul.

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know, you just, have to, again, you have to take your hats off, your hat off to him and just say, you know what?

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Well done mate.

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Yep.

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I just checked Singapore 2014 Louis to Paul by 0.007 of a second.

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that say if I'm not mistaken, it's probably the close.

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This is probably the second closest.

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poor we've had since then, but I could be wrong.

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I don't have time to check all of that stuff right now.

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Yeah.

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And that was that on Saturday.

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Again, Louis, I don't know what's going on with Louis and that Ferrari.

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Struggled again in qualifying qualified what?

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P7 behind the Williams or Carla signs.

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And again, you know, the people that start running with the night is all Louis are qualified by the money replaced.

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in Ferrari which is of like dumb because he was never going to finish in front of Lewis anyway so why are we making that a big deal but yeah Yuki carrying on his form made it to every Q3 session since he's been in that red bull which again every time he does that proves that red bull made a mistake not putting him in the seat from the beginning Did he go Q3 in his first race?

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Did he go Q3 in his first race with him?

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Yuki made it in his first race was in Japan.

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because it's Japan barring and then this one.

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I'll tell you, yeah, Yuki made it to Q3 in Japan.

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He's not, no, lying.

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Sorry, my bad.

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He's 15.

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He didn't make Q3.

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He made it.

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But I'm like, uh, yeah, I doubt that.

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he started 15th.

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I think, yeah, they messed up his run plan and that's what cast him.

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I think if they hadn't messed him up, he would have definitely made it to Q3 because he had the pace for it.

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either way, you know what still doing better than what Larsson has done.

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Larsson did in that in his two races, as even with Larsson going back down to the racing balls, still not doing better than what Yuki did in that racing ball.

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So, yeah.

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So that was qualifying pretty much.

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Same old story, you know, for leading up to the final qualifying and then BAM! Max just did what Max does when the pressure is on or when he needs to deliver.

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A certain driver could learn a thing or two from that, but hey.

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True.

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Yeah, so that's Saturday wrapped up.

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Yeah, so Sunday race, the Asteri, started from second.

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Stuff it on max, basically out max max.

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In the first corner.

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first driver to win three races this season.

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Actually, he's the only driver.

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to in multiple races so far.

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multiple races this season so far.

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Yeah, Max picked up a penalty for that.

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What do think about that penalty?

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Because I see it's still running around now.

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It's now Tuesday at the time of recording.

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It's still...

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He was too lenient because they gave him half the penalty not the full penalty because by a rule he should have been given 10 seconds but if you read the storage report it said the reason why they didn't give him seats the 10 seconds was because that it was the first lap and I'm like sorry it shouldn't really matter.

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In fact he knows the rules you can't overtake a car off track and then keep the position.

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You broke the rules.

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Penalty applied a penalty and that's, know, that's one of the been, one of my issues with formula one for some time.

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Now when it comes, especially when it comes to max, it's like they're scared of penalizing them for things that you, that anybody else would have gotten a penalty for.

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And again, you know, cause he knew he lost that corner because he had a, a slower reaction time to than PSG.

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And the moment PSG got his front, right tire next to Max's front right, Max was never going to, that corner was lost to him.

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There was no way he could have made that corner because again, that left hand, the base, because that's not the left, Max is on the racing line going into that corner.

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So Piazzu's entrance into that corner was always going to be much tighter, which means that he was kind of like pretty much full lock and his natural trajectory would have taken him basically towards the apex of turn two, once he gets around turn one.

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And if you look at the head on start from Max, what he did was when he moved left and realized Piastri didn't budge, because Piastri kept it pinned and he was going straight.

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If Piastri had deviated a little bit, the wall was next to him, he'd probably put it in the wall, but he didn't move.

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So you notice Max then kind of like swung the car to his right to take the natural race sweeping line into that corner.

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But Piastry was always there.

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There was no way Piastry was going to disappear.

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That was a gap that was always going to close.

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He was always going to go off track because Piastry can't just disappear out of the space that he's already occupied.

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So they knew it, but he knew that.

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But the funny thing is, if you listen to the radio message, he then said something on the lines of, after they gave him the penalty, like, but He doesn't understand because they discussed that in the stewards meeting.

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And I'm thinking, what did, so because, then to me that seems like it was a premeditated meditated decision from him to go ahead and still go off track and made a position.

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Dude, you, had all four wheels off the track.

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were.

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And I think there was an explanation was given in commentary.

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So it seems that he just misinterpreted what was in the bridge.

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because there's no way you were going to keep that position.

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They're not going to let you do that.

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If it was a case of like Abu Dhabi 2021 where he threw it up the inside the lowest going into I think turn five or I can't remember which corner and coming up to the first the first earpin at the end of the first straight.

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where he threw it up on the inside and Lewis had to take a void in action and cut the corner.

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There's a reason why they didn't penalise him for that because Max was never ahead at the apex of the corner.

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Lewis was ahead.

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Lewis was already finished his braking and was already making the turn when Max just kind of like let off the brakes, carried more speed in and just do what Max does.

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Puts in a compromising situation where you either move out his way or you're going to crash.

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That's little, that's little what Piastri did to him.

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And again, he knew that was what he did was against the rules.

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So I don't know why his team didn't say to him, you know what, Max give the position back because if I remember going back a cup, they've made some alterations to how they're going to police situations that that word has said.

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They're going to leave it up to the teams to make the decision to switch positions.

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But if they don't switch positions within a I think it's a lap or two, then it's going to be referred to the stewards.

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And once it goes to the stewards, then the stewards can make a decision.

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And that's exactly what they did.

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And they penalize him.

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But I'm looking at it like, okay, you then had the red flag because Yuki and I think it's- Gasly.

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Gasly came together.

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Yeah, came together, caused a crash.

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Yuki has his first DNF as well as Gasly, I believe.

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You had the red flag.

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They could have sought positions then.

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If you saw positions then at least it give him a chance to see if he can overtake at the restart of the race.

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But the fact that you kept him out, was no way he was going to win that race.

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If PSG stayed within that five second window, if PSG was within a second, two seconds, Max needed to pull at least six seconds on PSG.

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for him not to suffer the consequence of that penalty.

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Not even six seconds.

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I think he needed about maybe seven to eight seconds for it not to affect him.

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And that was never gonna- He was never going to pull away six seconds or seven, eight seconds from that McLaren.

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But if you look at the, exactly by the, the coming to the end of his stint, he pulled that gap up to 2.8 seconds before Piaz repeated, but it never got any further than that because the McLaren was just too good.

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But what I think.

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Yeah, the first round of pit stop.

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Yeah, because in post race interview, he said his tires were shut at that point.

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I think pretty much in the first thing, the only person who wasn't complaining about the tyres in the first thing was outside of Lando was probably Charles.

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Because Charles made his tyres work and I think we get on to why he got on the podium anyway.

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I think the reason why they didn't swap the position is because they knew if you that McLaren in clear air is a missile.

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So if you give, because if you listen to Lando radio when he was coming through the traffic, when they were asking him about his ties and whatnot.

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And he was like, some clear here would actually help.

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it tells you if that McLaren had gotten the lead, they would have just driven away from Max.

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Cause I felt, you know, they had the overall pace to do what they needed to do, but they didn't do it.

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Again, Piaz repeated first, came back out on the hard ties and he pulled a risky move on Lewis.

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to get that position, which whilst it paid off, it was also somewhat too risky a move, especially where he made the pass.

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Cause if you look on that line, it's pretty much one line.

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was the clip.

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Both sides of the track was dirty because degradation seemed like it was really high.

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There was a lot of marbles and dirt offline and the pass where he did so close to the wall with DRS It's likely he could have gone that marble and just like slid off into the wall.

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He basically, and I think if it was any other driver, he wouldn't try that.

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It's because Lewis and Lewis tends to be a fear driver.

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He's not going to put you in a position where it could cause an accident.

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I beg to differ on that.

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Yeah, I think PS3 is one of them ones.

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I don't think it's because of Lewis.

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I think the guy is ruthless and people are not giving him the credit I file.

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I think when he's a ruthless guy, right?

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fact that he doesn't smile a lot, doesn't say a lot, right?

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I don't think it's because of Lewis.

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Because even that past, as you know, we discussed this, I disagree.

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Whilst it might have been risky.

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I respect it.

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No, we're going to disagree.

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We're not going to say we don't.

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And let's admit it, sometimes that's what makes champions.

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Yeah, but at the same time, it's again, it's early in the season to be pulling that sort of move that could have ended up in a DNF.

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But it's what you said, it's best to make that move early in the season and recover it, right?

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He crashes, at least he's got the seed.

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You don't want to do that at the end of the season when the championship really simmer down.

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But you also said that they should be banking the points at this stage of the season.

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So basically it's a fit when gamble.

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Cause it's likely he could have put it, could have led to an accident, but he didn't.

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so in that regards, we can say, yeah, it worked, but you know.

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But also got to remember racing is about feel, right?

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lot of it comes down to what you feel.

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Most of the feel is in your butt cheeks, basically, right?

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Feeling under your seat.

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You feel what the car is doing, And maybe he was just in a position where he felt in control.

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He knew exactly what the car was going to do, matter where on the track he put it.

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And he just made a decision because he knows the machine that he's got underneath him, That's the driver.

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who's actually maximizing what he's got.

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was like, I trust this car.

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I know what I've got.

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I see this move.

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I'm going to take it.

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I'm not going to second guess it.

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I'm just going to go for it.

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Right.

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And let's keep, let's be honest.

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That's what make great drivers.

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And that's usually what separates the best.

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Right.

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It's just in those decisive moments.

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I'm not tripping off it.

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I think it was a great move.

00:19:40.153 --> 00:19:42.003
He did what he had to do and got up the road.

00:19:42.003 --> 00:19:42.574
So.

00:19:42.574 --> 00:19:47.394
Fair enough, which I say fair enough because it worked out in his favour.

00:19:47.394 --> 00:20:02.973
If it hadn't worked out in his favour, I think we'd be sitting here saying, you know what, he could have waited until the next DRS zone on Paras Lewis because based on his performance, Max was never going to jump him.

00:20:03.153 --> 00:20:05.996
Max was always going to lose that position in the race.

00:20:05.996 --> 00:20:07.449
Yeah, but I just cannot.

00:20:07.449 --> 00:20:15.644
I can never like in a situation like that when a driver is just goes for it.

00:20:15.644 --> 00:20:17.788
I just always got to respect it.

00:20:18.007 --> 00:20:21.093
But I don't think you're misunderstanding me.

00:20:21.093 --> 00:20:23.194
I'm not saying we don't, I don't respect.

00:20:23.442 --> 00:20:25.506
It was risky, right?

00:20:25.847 --> 00:20:32.279
But at the same time, at the same time, he came across the moment, he had to make a decision.

00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:33.321
He just made it.

00:20:33.321 --> 00:20:34.432
Yeah, fair enough.

00:20:34.432 --> 00:20:47.169
what I'm trying to say to you is, think given that, again, Max is always going to lose that position because Max didn't have the gap to do a five second stop and then come back out in front of him.

00:20:47.169 --> 00:20:55.853
So even if he had held position behind Lewis until turn 27, he was always going to come back out ahead of Max.

00:20:55.853 --> 00:20:56.893
That's what I'm saying.

00:20:56.893 --> 00:21:00.299
And again, He was thinking about something else.

00:21:00.299 --> 00:21:04.016
What else could he be thinking about?

00:21:04.526 --> 00:21:05.105
anything.

00:21:05.105 --> 00:21:07.986
He could have been thinking about a safety car.

00:21:07.986 --> 00:21:09.145
He could have been thinking about anything.

00:21:09.145 --> 00:21:11.465
He could have been thinking about maybe this is my shot.

00:21:11.865 --> 00:21:30.760
you know, just like what happened with Lando and Lewis, The fact that we were like, But the thing is, safety car, if there was a safety car, it wouldn't affect him because the safety car would have to, they're still racing until they get to the back of the safety car.

00:21:30.766 --> 00:21:33.769
Yeah, I'm just saying what it might it may have been thinking about stuff.

00:21:33.769 --> 00:21:39.384
He may have realized, you know, I just need to catch Luis by surprise and just get it done because we saw what happened in the D.I.R.A.

00:21:39.384 --> 00:21:40.265
zone with his teammates.

00:21:40.265 --> 00:21:41.787
So nothing is a given in the D.I.R.A.

00:21:41.787 --> 00:21:42.157
zone.

00:21:42.157 --> 00:21:45.438
Yeah, but like again, Lewis was on old tires.

00:21:45.438 --> 00:21:47.377
He was on brand new tires.

00:21:47.377 --> 00:21:57.877
The pass was always going to be because if I'm not mistaken, Lewis actually passed him back going into turn 27 and he passed him back coming out of turn 27.

00:21:57.998 --> 00:21:59.157
So you see what I mean?

00:21:59.157 --> 00:22:07.817
So it didn't really make a difference because I'm sure I saw on the timing screen, Lewis had gotten back ahead of him.

00:22:08.137 --> 00:22:09.597
again, Oscar?

00:22:09.597 --> 00:22:10.337
Yeah.

00:22:10.337 --> 00:22:12.426
You should never sell work as currency.

00:22:12.446 --> 00:22:20.896
no, when he once I'm telling you on the timing screen, they showed he made the pass and then they showed Lewis going back ahead of him again.

00:22:20.896 --> 00:22:25.561
And then it showed the timing screen switched again where he then got back ahead of Lewis.

00:22:26.932 --> 00:22:28.753
I didn't see unless they didn't show it on screen.

00:22:28.753 --> 00:22:30.338
I don't think cool.

00:22:30.338 --> 00:22:35.391
But either way, we're not saying it wasn't a brilliant move.

00:22:35.391 --> 00:22:46.325
My thing is, it was a risky one where looking at the circumstances at the time, probably didn't need to do that move because again, he was always going to get that position from Max.

00:22:46.325 --> 00:22:56.509
I'd understand if the margins between him taking the lead from Max was extremely tight, then I can say, all right, then cool.

00:22:56.509 --> 00:22:58.807
versus reward in that situation.

00:22:58.807 --> 00:23:10.301
But in this situation, that wasn't really necessary because the position was basically his the moment Max pitted because Max didn't have a big enough gap for him to come back out in front of him.

00:23:10.433 --> 00:23:18.433
Yeah, I guess me when I'm looking at racing, I don't do the whole think about it, take two laps to think about it.

00:23:18.433 --> 00:23:21.468
I just think about you come up, you get the opportunity to take it.

00:23:21.468 --> 00:23:22.198
It is what it is.

00:23:22.198 --> 00:23:25.512
Like, I don't really do the calculative.

00:23:25.512 --> 00:23:26.452
They think about it.

00:23:26.452 --> 00:23:27.394
Wait three laps.

00:23:27.394 --> 00:23:30.026
Yeah, it's all me.

00:23:30.026 --> 00:23:31.046
all calculated.

00:23:31.046 --> 00:23:34.218
So even coming up and doing it on the first lap, it's a...

00:23:34.218 --> 00:23:40.520
I say that, mean like the delayed thought of it, Like Orlando goes about business.

00:23:40.520 --> 00:23:43.281
Like I'm not really big on that type of racing.

00:23:43.281 --> 00:23:46.644
just like opportunity comes, take it, it is what it is.

00:23:46.644 --> 00:24:01.130
But yeah, so now that he maxed Max, and the thing is what I was looking at, As I said, think he's a ruthless driver and I think we're going to see a lot more of that with him on Max this year and he's not going to back down.

00:24:01.526 --> 00:24:05.348
Yeah, but it's true, but we know Max.

00:24:05.348 --> 00:24:09.791
So it's very likely there's going to be a coming together between the two of them at some point.

00:24:10.472 --> 00:24:17.798
I think it's inevitable because Max is pretty much, I think with the exception of Charles.

00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.280
No, I'm lying.

00:24:19.280 --> 00:24:24.564
He's pretty much crashed into every one of his title contenders.

00:24:24.785 --> 00:24:29.548
Crashed into Lewis, crashed into Charles, crashed into Lando.

00:24:29.548 --> 00:24:31.051
And it's very likely.

00:24:31.051 --> 00:24:32.355
He's crashed into George.

00:24:32.355 --> 00:24:37.413
It's very likely that him and Oscar, it's inevitable.

00:24:37.634 --> 00:24:43.950
difference is that Max is trailing so even if he crashes into Oscar, that's just one let's race.

00:24:43.950 --> 00:24:46.630
Max don't care whether he's trailing or not.

00:24:46.630 --> 00:24:50.170
So that's where the accident is going to come in because he's trailing.

00:24:50.170 --> 00:24:55.029
He's going to be more, he's going to be willing to take these chances.

00:24:55.029 --> 00:24:56.950
that's exactly what he does.

00:24:56.950 --> 00:25:01.250
If you're leading, he's going to put you in a position to make a decision.

00:25:02.069 --> 00:25:07.789
Do you want to have an accident or do you want to just let me pass and we score points?

00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:13.445
Because if you have an accident and I come out of that unscathed.

00:25:14.304 --> 00:25:16.755
You're going to DNF and I'm going to score a point.

00:25:17.334 --> 00:25:19.247
I'm all for the driver going toe to toe with Max.

00:25:19.247 --> 00:25:24.246
Because someone has got to like, hey man, okay, we are going to lose today.

00:25:24.246 --> 00:25:24.536
Right?

00:25:24.536 --> 00:25:28.030
Because the moment you let him understand that I'm that type of guy.

00:25:28.907 --> 00:25:34.020
Which is why I want Mercedes to give George a good car.

00:25:34.020 --> 00:25:41.566
Because I think if George gets a car that's comparable to the Red Bull, George has never backed down from him.

00:25:42.056 --> 00:25:47.650
And, and whilst I'm saying it about Max, right, is I personally have nothing against Max, right?

00:25:47.650 --> 00:25:56.936
I just always believe that, what Red Bull does, what Max does is what the sport allows them to do.

00:25:57.557 --> 00:25:58.458
Right.

00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:00.319
So, and I get it.

00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.701
There's rules and there's, are boundaries.

00:26:03.782 --> 00:26:07.917
There's always going to be someone who's going to push.

00:26:07.917 --> 00:26:11.638
push, push is going to thread that line as close as they possibly can.

00:26:11.638 --> 00:26:13.700
And in this case, it's Max and Red Bull.

00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:25.792
You know, if the sport allows them, if, if what a lot of people deem over the line and they continue to do it, that's a, that's, that's a sports fault, right?

00:26:25.792 --> 00:26:28.094
They need to, to nip that in the bud, right?

00:26:28.094 --> 00:26:31.924
So yeah, to wrap up on the Oscar situation, right?

00:26:32.664 --> 00:26:33.955
You say he's title favorite now.

00:26:33.955 --> 00:26:35.596
Do you think he's title favorite now?

00:26:39.615 --> 00:26:41.595
I think it's too early to say.

00:26:42.076 --> 00:26:47.057
I think it's too early to say, but he's definitely in the title fight.

00:26:47.336 --> 00:26:50.178
That's 100 % certain.

00:26:50.178 --> 00:26:51.978
He's in the title fight now.

00:26:51.978 --> 00:26:58.500
He's only what 10 points ahead of Lando and 12 points ahead of Max.

00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:41.817
So he's definitely in the title fight and he's shown in the races that he has won that he can compete, can control and win races because again even though I think Max finished something like two and a half seconds behind him I think most of that time last he was stuck in behind back markers and so on and again because they did a one-stop strategy I think I think he had he drove at a pace just to get him across the line I think there was probably more pace in that McLaren if needs be that he could have unleashed so yeah he's definitely exactly You don't need to go no faster than you need to win the race.

00:27:41.817 --> 00:27:43.258
He was in the lead.

00:27:43.258 --> 00:27:44.637
He could respond.

00:27:44.637 --> 00:27:47.917
I think he could respond to anything Max threw at him.

00:27:47.917 --> 00:27:54.298
So it was never a case of where he was really under any serious threat.

00:27:54.317 --> 00:27:57.077
But yeah, he's definitely a tighty contender.

00:27:57.178 --> 00:27:59.458
Whatever his odds were.

00:27:59.758 --> 00:28:08.678
I remember when I went to the quick stop thing, some guy there said the start of the season, Oscar was something like 11 to 1 to win the championship.

00:28:09.165 --> 00:28:29.198
and after he won in Bahrain which was it Bahrain we went to yeah it was Bahrain is it the Bahrain Grand Prix they had on that weekend yeah i think it was a Bahrain which which it was Australia You mean when you went to the quick stop thing?

00:28:29.198 --> 00:28:31.973
That was the last race.

00:28:31.973 --> 00:28:32.753
Yeah.

00:28:32.753 --> 00:28:36.334
And I think someone said, cause he won, he's won.

00:28:36.554 --> 00:28:36.794
Okay.

00:28:36.794 --> 00:28:41.433
After China, the guy said his odds dropped to something like two to one.

00:28:41.473 --> 00:28:47.534
So right now I think his odds are even going to fall below that where he's now odds on.

00:28:49.144 --> 00:28:52.576
favorite to win the championship based on what we've seen so far.

00:28:52.576 --> 00:28:57.460
I still think it's early to say he's the title favorite.

00:28:57.460 --> 00:28:59.141
The gap is too small.

00:28:59.602 --> 00:29:05.194
It only takes Lander to win a race and him to finish third and they're pretty much level on points.

00:29:05.194 --> 00:29:10.390
Obviously, Oscar would lead on combat because he'd have won three races to Landers too.

00:29:10.892 --> 00:29:15.807
But I'm sure when they're making these odds, they're looking at a lot of stuff.

00:29:17.511 --> 00:29:21.165
On average, the first five races, which he's performed better.

00:29:21.165 --> 00:29:25.945
Yeah, that's why he's more likely odds on favourite now to win the championship.

00:29:25.945 --> 00:29:36.925
But again, I think it's too early to pin that badge on him and say, yeah, he's now the championship favourite because it's too early.

00:29:36.925 --> 00:29:43.665
still have including, because this was what round five, sprint races.

00:29:43.665 --> 00:29:50.945
think it tallies up to about 23 races or 22 races left.

00:29:50.945 --> 00:29:52.461
So it's still a long way to go.

00:29:52.461 --> 00:29:54.307
The season finishes in December.

00:29:54.307 --> 00:29:55.659
We're only in April.

00:29:55.721 --> 00:29:57.345
So we have another what?

00:29:57.647 --> 00:29:58.890
Eight months to go?

00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.195
But based on what we've seen so far is...

00:30:03.195 --> 00:30:06.761
title favorite because I mean what does he have?

00:30:07.124 --> 00:30:14.067
Two poles and three wins because he's the first to win a race not starting from pole so far.

00:30:15.137 --> 00:30:16.236
which says a lot.

00:30:16.236 --> 00:30:17.027
Yeah.

00:30:17.050 --> 00:30:19.622
But again, that's Max's fault, isn't it?

00:30:20.289 --> 00:30:21.109
Right.

00:30:22.551 --> 00:30:25.153
going on to moving on to Lando, right?

00:30:25.153 --> 00:30:28.317
I've loses the championship lead to his teammate.

00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:32.280
What do you make of Lando?

00:30:32.280 --> 00:30:34.902
It's been five races in.

00:30:35.483 --> 00:30:36.403
Right.

00:30:36.765 --> 00:30:38.246
Obviously he had to qualify and crash.

00:30:38.246 --> 00:30:39.467
So he started.

00:30:40.428 --> 00:30:40.928
Yep.

00:30:40.928 --> 00:30:41.608
Right.

00:30:41.608 --> 00:30:43.690
And then he had to drive through field.

00:30:45.112 --> 00:30:47.493
Why do you make of Lando's performance so far?

00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:52.332
Like I said earlier, Lander's problem is on Saturdays, not Sundays.

00:30:52.332 --> 00:30:58.114
I think the only mistake he made on a Sunday was, what was the last race?

00:30:58.513 --> 00:31:04.756
Byron where he started outside his grid box and got that five second penalty.

00:31:04.797 --> 00:31:08.198
Outside of that, he's been pretty much flawless on a Sunday.

00:31:08.198 --> 00:31:11.239
His drives on a Sunday has been exemplary.

00:31:11.699 --> 00:31:16.020
So if he fixes Saturdays, he'll be fine.

00:31:16.161 --> 00:31:24.048
And if you look at all of the sessions, he's pretty much been there in all of the sessions performance wise.

00:31:24.048 --> 00:31:28.411
It's either he's the quickest or he's just slightly behind Asuka.

00:31:28.932 --> 00:31:32.432
So come Saturdays, that's where his problem is.

00:31:32.874 --> 00:31:37.056
Again, is it a case of his fault or in under the pressure?

00:31:37.056 --> 00:31:50.375
And that when it comes time to deliver the laps or like he's been complaining even before the season start that He's not comfortably in the car.

00:31:50.776 --> 00:31:57.060
Is that uncomfort, uncomfortability what's affecting him on a Saturday?

00:31:57.161 --> 00:31:58.092
It's on us.

00:31:58.092 --> 00:32:02.465
You won't see on a Friday, practice session, because again, it's practice.

00:32:02.465 --> 00:32:07.249
The cars aren't running at pretty much, qualifying trim.

00:32:07.269 --> 00:32:09.810
So he doesn't have to push it that hard.

00:32:09.971 --> 00:32:14.976
So it's not when it comes time for him to actually push it to get the lab for qualifying.

00:32:14.976 --> 00:32:17.738
That's where his mistakes are being made.

00:32:17.738 --> 00:32:21.318
I think if he fixes that he'll be fine because he has the pace.

00:32:21.398 --> 00:32:25.140
He was quicker than Oscar in China.

00:32:25.140 --> 00:32:27.780
He's quicker than him in Japan.

00:32:27.780 --> 00:32:32.942
I think they were pretty much on par in China as well.

00:32:32.942 --> 00:32:38.743
But again, he had that because he started where he started and he had to work his way back up to Pito.

00:32:38.743 --> 00:32:41.365
And then he had that break by wire issue.

00:32:41.704 --> 00:32:46.205
You know, I think he was pretty much a match for Oscar in China as well.

00:32:46.730 --> 00:32:49.791
And that's, you know, my views when it comes onto this.

00:32:52.394 --> 00:32:56.897
you're, it's pointless being there, being faster.

00:32:57.638 --> 00:33:01.211
But when it comes on the time when it's actually needed, you can't put it together.

00:33:01.211 --> 00:33:02.403
That's useless to me.

00:33:02.403 --> 00:33:11.529
What he's suffering from, it reminds me of, reminds me of any Abastinini or the GP.

00:33:12.576 --> 00:33:13.353
so.

00:33:13.622 --> 00:33:17.255
in terms of like, because if he's messing up, he's qualified.

00:33:17.255 --> 00:33:21.728
remember, his pace is ridiculous.

00:33:21.728 --> 00:33:25.890
But he always comes from too far, right?

00:33:26.050 --> 00:33:37.919
And so with Lando, it's like all the things that he does throughout the weekend, it doesn't rock me if he's faster or there with Oscar.

00:33:39.580 --> 00:33:40.740
Like man.

00:33:41.644 --> 00:33:51.808
He does everything right up until that moment and then just throws it all away by making a mistake in qualifying because he's only been on pole once, Australia.

00:33:52.750 --> 00:33:56.932
So let me ask this, was he having these issues with the car last year?

00:33:57.012 --> 00:33:58.992
Issues that he's having now.

00:33:59.114 --> 00:34:05.740
and would you say that my client did a lot to the car that they're running now compared to the one last year?

00:34:05.740 --> 00:34:08.782
I mean, they've made major, they've made a lot of changes.

00:34:08.782 --> 00:34:10.914
Some of it, obviously it's not cosmetic.

00:34:10.914 --> 00:34:17.797
It's not a brand new, how you say, brand new philosophy.

00:34:17.797 --> 00:34:24.222
It's a, again, it's an iteration of the MCL 38.

00:34:24.222 --> 00:34:28.244
So, but that can have an effect on you as well.

00:34:28.405 --> 00:34:38.054
So he's finding it, you know, this things there that he probably doesn't like maybe Maybe it understeers too much, or it overstays too much.

00:34:38.054 --> 00:34:41.494
Maybe the ride for him is too hard or whatever it is.

00:34:41.494 --> 00:34:48.554
So there, could be a multitude of things that's making him uncomfortable.

00:34:48.822 --> 00:34:50.108
And what would you say about his teammate?

00:34:50.108 --> 00:34:50.721
What has happened?

00:34:50.721 --> 00:34:53.197
Because he's now here, he's comfortable.

00:34:53.197 --> 00:35:00.117
So, yeah, but that, because his teammate is comfortable with a car, doesn't mean Lando has to be.

00:35:00.152 --> 00:35:00.722
I say that.

00:35:00.722 --> 00:35:06.505
I'm asking you, now that this teammate has arrived and consistently performing, right?

00:35:06.585 --> 00:35:10.226
Is it a situation where as one of two things, right?

00:35:10.768 --> 00:35:16.829
Is it the that the updates that they've bought to the car probably suit Oscar more?

00:35:17.530 --> 00:35:22.994
Or is it a situation where probably Oscar is just more adaptable?

00:35:23.081 --> 00:35:24.242
No, I don't think it's...

00:35:24.242 --> 00:35:25.443
don't think it's...

00:35:25.443 --> 00:35:32.085
Again, because he's been complaining about the field, his field with the car from testing.

00:35:32.085 --> 00:35:34.766
So it didn't start when the season started.

00:35:34.766 --> 00:35:36.688
He's been saying it since testing.

00:35:36.688 --> 00:35:45.052
So again, I don't think it's a case of not being able to adapt because he's still getting the performance out of the car.

00:35:45.711 --> 00:35:47.083
He's still putting in...

00:35:47.083 --> 00:35:49.713
He's still blindingly quick.

00:35:49.784 --> 00:35:55.815
Yeah, but what I'm trying to figure out because we have to put we have to pay attention to what's going on with Oscar, right?

00:35:56.396 --> 00:35:59.215
So, yeah, so I'm saying Lando.

00:35:59.936 --> 00:36:02.237
We say Lando was the better driver of the team.

00:36:02.237 --> 00:36:04.398
Yeah, who got most of the car last year.

00:36:04.398 --> 00:36:05.297
Yeah.

00:36:05.378 --> 00:36:10.059
So my question is what has changed as to why Oscar seemed to be the guy now?

00:36:10.059 --> 00:36:12.980
Yeah, Oscar must be one of two things.

00:36:14.041 --> 00:36:16.471
What they did to the car probably suits him better.

00:36:16.471 --> 00:36:17.001
Yeah.

00:36:17.001 --> 00:36:23.434
Are he's just No, think No, I don't think so.

00:36:23.434 --> 00:36:37.994
I think it's just that what they've done the developments they've made to the current generation the MCL 39 I think it's called it just it's just For Oscar it's better.

00:36:37.994 --> 00:36:39.485
He doesn't have an issue with it.

00:36:39.485 --> 00:36:40.896
It's fine for him.

00:36:40.896 --> 00:36:42.867
It's like it's what he wanted.

00:36:42.867 --> 00:36:44.619
But for lambda there's something there.

00:36:44.619 --> 00:36:46.612
That's just not working for him.

00:36:46.612 --> 00:36:50.617
Again, it's similar to Lewis and Charles, right?

00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:56.728
In Charles's hand, he seems comfortable with the Ferrari, but Lewis isn't.

00:36:57.028 --> 00:36:57.630
doesn't mean...

00:36:57.630 --> 00:36:58.429
it though?

00:36:58.711 --> 00:37:04.539
Charles is much more comfortable I think it will be different for them because I've always changed teams.

00:37:05.235 --> 00:37:07.931
But it's the same again.

00:37:07.972 --> 00:37:09.295
you can even okay.

00:37:09.295 --> 00:37:19.820
Let's you can use Paris and Max Paris was uncomfortable with the car last year, but Max seemed okay with it But there's no, there wasn't any swing.

00:37:19.820 --> 00:37:21.525
There's a swing in the McClangar.

00:37:21.525 --> 00:37:23.228
Mike was always the guy.

00:37:23.550 --> 00:37:25.715
I'm talking about the swing that's going on in the McClangar.

00:37:25.715 --> 00:37:27.208
how big is the swing?

00:37:27.208 --> 00:37:27.858
it's not like...

00:37:27.858 --> 00:37:28.389
3-1?

00:37:28.389 --> 00:37:28.699
No.

00:37:28.699 --> 00:37:29.349
3-1.

00:37:29.349 --> 00:37:30.291
Yeah.

00:37:30.291 --> 00:37:32.414
In terms of win this season, we get that.

00:37:32.414 --> 00:37:34.195
Yeah, that's what you...

00:37:34.195 --> 00:37:35.277
No, no, no, no.

00:37:35.277 --> 00:37:41.903
But when you talk about swing, we're it seem like Asuka wasn't performing last year as well.

00:37:41.903 --> 00:37:46.057
It's not like Asuka just appeared out of nowhere and just starting to perform.

00:37:46.057 --> 00:37:47.521
He was performing last...

00:37:47.521 --> 00:37:52.304
No, I'm not saying that but so, and he continues to perform.

00:37:52.304 --> 00:37:52.905
Yes.

00:37:52.905 --> 00:37:53.804
Right?

00:37:53.844 --> 00:37:59.518
The new car, the evolution of what they had last year, continues.

00:37:59.518 --> 00:38:02.510
So he's carried over his momentum from last year, right?

00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:10.958
as to Lando, but again, Lando's problem is not in the race, it's on a Saturday.

00:38:11.438 --> 00:38:12.458
That's what I'm saying, bro.

00:38:12.458 --> 00:38:16.498
can't just put, we know a race week, it doesn't come down to just a race.

00:38:16.498 --> 00:38:17.938
That's why it's a race weekend.

00:38:17.938 --> 00:38:19.523
It's how you put it together.

00:38:19.523 --> 00:38:26.659
we're not, I think, no, I think you're, I think you're trying to, you're trying to do something different.

00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:34.224
Again, we're not, yeah, but if he says he's uncomfortable in the car, right.

00:38:34.224 --> 00:38:35.175
He's uncomfortable.

00:38:35.175 --> 00:38:36.427
There's something in.

00:38:36.427 --> 00:38:37.398
me answer this.

00:38:37.398 --> 00:38:38.309
Yeah, finish.

00:38:38.309 --> 00:38:40.798
Have you ever seen a top team, right?

00:38:40.798 --> 00:38:43.260
Maybe I missed something, right?

00:38:43.260 --> 00:38:45.981
When Vettel was in the Red Bull, right?

00:38:46.860 --> 00:38:48.380
Whatever happened went his way.

00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:50.742
did, you know, he was always comfortable, right?

00:38:50.742 --> 00:38:52.342
Until when the wrecks changed.

00:38:52.583 --> 00:38:55.342
When Lewis was in the Mercedes, it was the same thing, right?

00:38:55.342 --> 00:38:56.384
He carried over.

00:38:56.384 --> 00:38:59.083
Maybe even for a couple of races, things was nice.

00:38:59.083 --> 00:39:01.324
Once it got sorted, he was there.

00:39:03.164 --> 00:39:05.646
Based on what I'm seeing, I'm just going off results.

00:39:05.782 --> 00:39:06.092
Right?

00:39:06.092 --> 00:39:12.028
Where the land is But you can't just go off results.

00:39:12.028 --> 00:39:16.851
It's because it's no, but you can't, but you can't just look at the results again.

00:39:16.851 --> 00:39:18.793
It's just, it's a narrow view.

00:39:18.793 --> 00:39:23.836
If you just go, okay, that's the result, but you have to factor in other things as well.

00:39:23.918 --> 00:39:29.186
If a driver is not comfortably in a car, he's not going to get the performance.

00:39:29.186 --> 00:39:31.403
And that's what I'm asking you.

00:39:31.403 --> 00:39:34.485
So which is why you cannot go away from its adaptability.

00:39:34.485 --> 00:39:36.619
It's not, come on, man, stop doing that.

00:39:36.619 --> 00:39:40.423
We need to stop this thing about adaptability, adaptability.

00:39:40.423 --> 00:39:42.815
They're all adaptable drivers.

00:39:42.987 --> 00:39:45.449
So let me ask you this.

00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:50.603
When was the last time you saw that what's supposed to be quote unquote the number one guy on the team?

00:39:50.603 --> 00:39:52.686
He was supposed to be the lead driver.

00:39:52.686 --> 00:39:57.750
When was the last time you saw this happen where it's like it totally shift?

00:39:57.902 --> 00:40:00.822
2010, Bull.

00:40:00.822 --> 00:40:01.822
Red Bull.

00:40:02.903 --> 00:40:05.403
Weber and Seb.

00:40:05.724 --> 00:40:10.206
Weber was the one leading that championship for majority of that year, was he not?

00:40:10.206 --> 00:40:12.806
Up until it got to Korea.

00:40:13.086 --> 00:40:14.887
When he crashed out in Korea.

00:40:14.887 --> 00:40:19.757
Because if he had actually finished that race in Korea, he would have won the championship.

00:40:19.757 --> 00:40:22.601
So I'm saying to you Seb, Seb was the new guy.

00:40:22.742 --> 00:40:25.085
In the Red Bull team Seb was the new guy.

00:40:26.769 --> 00:40:28.413
You're not listening to what I'm saying to you.

00:40:28.413 --> 00:40:29.954
In the Red Bull team.

00:40:30.382 --> 00:40:31.822
It doesn't...

00:40:31.822 --> 00:40:44.740
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, That's what I'm saying.

00:40:44.740 --> 00:40:46.534
Lando is the experienced guy on the team.

00:40:46.534 --> 00:40:48.155
He's supposed to be the team leader, right?

00:40:48.155 --> 00:40:49.568
Mm-hmm.

00:40:49.588 --> 00:40:50.094
Right?

00:40:50.094 --> 00:40:54.873
But hold on a second, but Seb nearly won the 2009 championship.

00:40:54.974 --> 00:40:57.414
Seb finished ahead of in 2009.

00:40:58.373 --> 00:41:10.114
And then in 2010, Weber, the tables switched and Weber was the one that was performing better and leading the championship up until what happened in South Korea.

00:41:10.114 --> 00:41:12.233
So again, your argument, I don't understand the argument.

00:41:12.233 --> 00:41:15.373
The point is the driver said he's uncomfortable.

00:41:15.373 --> 00:41:17.753
Again, it doesn't mean he's not adaptable.

00:41:18.485 --> 00:41:23.108
It could surely he must have done some form of adaptation to the car.

00:41:23.108 --> 00:41:31.192
Why he's able to be, he was able to win a race, put it on pole and has been on the podium in what?

00:41:31.871 --> 00:41:33.452
This is the first podium he's missed.

00:41:33.452 --> 00:41:35.733
He's been on the podium in four or five races.

00:41:35.753 --> 00:41:41.025
So again, I don't, this idea that you're asking, maybe he's not adaptable.

00:41:41.025 --> 00:41:45.173
don't, I don't buy that because again, he had to have adapted something.

00:41:45.173 --> 00:41:47.155
for him to get the performance he's getting.

00:41:47.155 --> 00:41:55.976
But the point is, because he's not fully comfortable with the car, he cannot get more.

00:41:56.117 --> 00:42:00.077
It's leading to the issues he's having on a Saturday.

00:42:01.378 --> 00:42:03.679
But it doesn't mean he's not adaptable.

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:11.585
If he wasn't adaptable, then you'd be talking about if he was finishing fifth, sixth, seventh, then you'd be saying, okay, you can't adapt.

00:42:11.585 --> 00:42:15.554
No, cause he's in a rocket ship, don't- he's that bad where he's gonna finish face-pick 6-7.

00:42:15.617 --> 00:42:27.920
But when you say a rocket ship, again, it's not like they're qualifying half a second to six tenths a second ahead of everybody.

00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:33.885
The qualifying sessions have been since the last three races.

00:42:33.885 --> 00:42:35.788
That's been pretty close.

00:42:35.980 --> 00:42:42.503
Yeah, what I'm saying to you, he's not that bad where I think he's going to qualify down in 6th, 7th and 8th.

00:42:42.503 --> 00:42:44.960
He's got the car to keep him round about where...

00:42:45.246 --> 00:42:56.474
Again, but you can't just say that because again, when Paris was in the Red Bull, the Red Bull was a quick car, but he was qualifying six, seven, eight.

00:42:56.635 --> 00:42:57.655
That's that.

00:42:57.655 --> 00:42:59.318
And he was complaining about issues.

00:42:59.318 --> 00:43:01.548
That's a driver who couldn't adapt to the issues.

00:43:01.548 --> 00:43:05.963
The cars were adapted to the car, but Lando is still qualifying.

00:43:05.963 --> 00:43:08.804
We're high up the grid, right?

00:43:08.804 --> 00:43:11.166
His lowest, his lowest qualifying.

00:43:11.166 --> 00:43:18.061
If you remove the crash was in, Who did he qualify as sixth?

00:43:18.461 --> 00:43:21.342
Who did he qualify Bahrain?

00:43:21.521 --> 00:43:22.981
Who did he qualify as sixth?

00:43:23.565 --> 00:43:26.865
And even that sounds crazy to me.

00:43:26.865 --> 00:43:44.235
Because you're trying to convince me that Lando basically isn't effing up, That's not true because I literally agreed at the beginning said he's making mistakes, but his mistakes are on a Saturday.

00:43:44.235 --> 00:43:52.438
you're trying to say it points to, you know, maybe because I said he's been complaining that, you know, he's uncomfortable with the car.

00:43:52.438 --> 00:44:04.184
You're saying, well, what, maybe he's not adaptable or something is, but again, I don't think it's like, I don't think it's a case of him not being able to adapt.

00:44:04.184 --> 00:44:05.579
He's just having issues.

00:44:05.579 --> 00:44:11.242
again, until when the iron ore there's those issues, then he'll be fine.

00:44:12.269 --> 00:44:15.014
So it sounds like you're confident that you ironed it out.

00:44:15.014 --> 00:44:18.094
I'm not that confident in Lando that it will get fixed.

00:44:18.094 --> 00:44:26.581
It's not Lando that needs to out the team needs to develop the car that irons out the issues that he's pointing out.

00:44:26.702 --> 00:44:27.581
Amen.

00:44:28.541 --> 00:44:29.922
I'm not buying that.

00:44:30.981 --> 00:44:32.501
I'm not buying that.

00:44:32.581 --> 00:44:33.402
What's going on with Lando?

00:44:33.402 --> 00:44:34.101
Let's keep it a buck.

00:44:34.101 --> 00:44:37.222
What's going on with Lando is between, in his head.

00:44:37.514 --> 00:44:38.797
Okay, cool.

00:44:38.797 --> 00:44:40.460
It possibly could be.

00:44:44.617 --> 00:44:50.101
You can't say it's not the car if he's been complaining about it from testing That's what I said, right?

00:44:51.402 --> 00:44:52.942
Lando, right?

00:44:52.942 --> 00:45:07.902
You see if he was a driver, when it's some simple stuff that he does that makes me look at him like, when they ask him about his car, even when he's got the fastest car, even when he's done something, he likes to, he doesn't stand up and take the mantle and be like, yeah.

00:45:08.001 --> 00:45:11.681
He's always saying there's something else or he's always pointing to someone else, right?

00:45:11.681 --> 00:45:13.822
And that for me, doesn't make me confident in him.

00:45:13.822 --> 00:45:16.461
And it doesn't make me believe that the car's got an issue.

00:45:16.594 --> 00:45:19.516
But again, you can't say that.

00:45:19.695 --> 00:45:22.318
people approach things differently.

00:45:22.318 --> 00:45:30.362
Maybe that's his way of taking pressure off himself and the team by saying, that team is also quick as well.

00:45:30.362 --> 00:45:36.525
Because when he was saying the Red Bull is not that far off the pace of the McLaren, everybody was laughing at him.

00:45:36.525 --> 00:45:43.059
But if you look at the Red Bull right now, it's not that far off the McLaren.

00:45:43.884 --> 00:45:45.846
No, it's not a dog-a-photo.

00:45:45.846 --> 00:45:52.666
no not being dog of a car it's not a dog of a car it's a it's it's not a dog off a car.

00:45:52.666 --> 00:45:53.739
The Red Bull is a good car.

00:45:53.739 --> 00:45:55.829
Some people are trying to make it seem worse than it actually is.

00:45:55.829 --> 00:45:57.503
It's actually a great car.

00:45:57.503 --> 00:46:03.925
And at that point in time, Lando was telling everybody, don't believe what they're telling you.

00:46:03.925 --> 00:46:09.748
That Red Bull and that Ferrari, the Ferrari one I don't really buy, are both quick cars.

00:46:09.748 --> 00:46:12.548
And you can see the Red Bull is a quick car.

00:46:12.548 --> 00:46:16.231
But people laughed at him and said, you're just saying that.

00:46:16.231 --> 00:46:21.382
But if you actually take a step back and look what's going on, he's actually telling the truth.

00:46:21.382 --> 00:46:23.443
The Red Bull is a quick car.

00:46:23.733 --> 00:46:32.590
So on any given day, the McLaren messes up, the Red Bull is going to take it and they don't even need to mess up, case in point, like we saw in Japan.

00:46:36.632 --> 00:46:42.581
Because on any given day if he finds space and he feels good, there's a possibility he could put it on.

00:46:42.581 --> 00:46:48.713
I think it's unfair to just be saying, like, we don't believe.

00:46:48.713 --> 00:46:55.985
Because again, I'd understand if he only started to say this, like the last couple of races.

00:46:55.985 --> 00:47:03.768
But if you go back to testing, you listen to him, he's saying, look, he doesn't know why, but he doesn't feel comfortable in the car.

00:47:03.768 --> 00:47:06.248
And it's something that they're going to have to fix.

00:47:06.389 --> 00:47:09.467
And despite that, He's still only 10 points.

00:47:09.467 --> 00:47:12.619
He was leading the championship up until this weekend.

00:47:12.813 --> 00:47:20.920
Trust me, if his teammate continues to do what he's doing and my client see that this car is a winner.

00:47:21.208 --> 00:47:22.726
But they know the car is a winner.

00:47:22.726 --> 00:47:24.255
They know the car is a winner.

00:47:24.255 --> 00:47:29.942
If, if Piazzar continues to perform and doing what he's Lando is cooked.

00:47:29.942 --> 00:47:31.980
He's going to have to figure it out for the rest of the season.

00:47:31.980 --> 00:47:42.938
He has to figure it but he already knows he has to figure it out because he said he has said that he needs to start out his Saturdays because that's where the issues affects him more on a Saturday.

00:47:42.938 --> 00:47:49.273
Once the car gets down to low fuel and he has to get the lap, that's when he starts to have the issues.

00:47:49.273 --> 00:47:59.583
if you look at his race, his race actually on a Sunday, he's pretty much up there as one probably quicker than Oscar.

00:47:59.583 --> 00:48:01.454
He's the quick of the two guys.

00:48:02.581 --> 00:48:02.914
Amen.

00:48:02.914 --> 00:48:04.422
See what the end of the season says.

00:48:04.422 --> 00:48:05.815
I don't believe it.

00:48:06.547 --> 00:48:12.119
Yeah, well because you've already set your muscle when it comes to Landa.

00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:16.543
You've already pretty much said you don't think you don't trust him to win the championship.

00:48:16.543 --> 00:48:23.918
So in that regard, anything he does or says that supports the argument, you're going to say you don't believe it.

00:48:24.226 --> 00:48:26.809
So am I just pulling it out of thin air?

00:48:26.829 --> 00:48:30.371
I'm basing this off what I'm seeing.

00:48:31.041 --> 00:48:51.688
you said you're basing it off what you've seen but at the end of the day let's see what happens when you get to i think it's december 5th last week we'll know before we get to sardinia who the world championship champion is abu dhabi yeah we know who the world championship Yeah, we go see.

00:48:51.809 --> 00:48:53.650
As I said, it's in his head.

00:48:53.650 --> 00:48:55.112
I think the car is fine.

00:48:55.112 --> 00:48:56.875
And that's just my take on it.

00:48:57.496 --> 00:48:58.817
It's in his head.

00:48:59.099 --> 00:49:00.320
It's in his head.

00:49:01.382 --> 00:49:04.485
I could say this loud, Landers problem is in his head.

00:49:04.715 --> 00:49:08.731
Look, I have no dog in this fight.

00:49:08.731 --> 00:49:14.237
whoever wins the championship, as long as it's not Max Verstappen, I don't really care.

00:49:14.675 --> 00:49:18.445
Even if it max, even if it's max, I put it right forward.

00:49:18.445 --> 00:49:25.809
don't want Max to win the championship and I pretty much stated many times why I don't want him to win the championship Yeah, it doesn't matter to me.

00:49:25.809 --> 00:49:32.929
As long as I get great racing, if Max wins, if he could put it out and he wins, you just have to give it to him, right?

00:49:32.929 --> 00:49:33.809
It is what it is.

00:49:33.809 --> 00:49:35.190
I'm not even tripping.

00:49:37.590 --> 00:49:44.250
So, yeah, moving on from Lando, took up more time than we actually wanted to, but yeah, Charles.

00:49:44.250 --> 00:49:46.409
Charles, it on the box with Ferrari.

00:49:46.478 --> 00:49:47.338
Yep.

00:49:47.418 --> 00:49:50.197
The first podium of the season.

00:49:50.518 --> 00:49:55.617
Again, yeah, I think if you go back to qualifying, I think he was a star of qualifying.

00:49:55.858 --> 00:50:13.409
Or of anybody else, because, you know, to get within three tenths of the McLaren's, the Red Bull and the Mercedes, showed that he basically hang it out on that qualifying lap.

00:50:13.409 --> 00:50:19.434
You only had one lap to do it and he hung it out and he got with, you know, put it qualified fourth, the fourth.

00:50:19.434 --> 00:50:19.733
Yeah.

00:50:19.733 --> 00:50:21.235
Qualified fourth.

00:50:21.396 --> 00:50:28.519
You know, he, I think his race, he, two reasons why he made it to the podium.

00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:33.043
His first thing, again, he was the only one that made that medium tires.

00:50:33.043 --> 00:50:37.615
I think he was the last to come off the medium tires on, in that first thing.

00:50:37.615 --> 00:50:42.789
So he ran really long into the race and he created a good enough tire offset.

00:50:43.115 --> 00:50:45.929
to everybody else, especially to George.

00:50:45.929 --> 00:50:46.989
Cause he was complete.

00:50:46.989 --> 00:50:53.835
Cause if you listen to the first thing, everybody on mediums were complaining at the ties.

00:50:53.835 --> 00:50:54.967
Louis was complaining.

00:50:54.967 --> 00:51:03.425
Everybody was complaining that, you know, they were having more higher degradation than, than expected tires overheating, et cetera, et cetera.

00:51:03.425 --> 00:51:06.867
But we didn't really hear nothing from Charles like that.

00:51:07.007 --> 00:51:09.300
So he drove a good first thing.

00:51:09.579 --> 00:51:13.443
came back out on the hard tyres who did he come back out behind?

00:51:16.887 --> 00:51:18.148
Who did he come back out behind?

00:51:18.148 --> 00:51:26.224
Yeah, he came back out behind George because he wasn't ahead.

00:51:26.224 --> 00:51:27.965
Was Antonelli ahead of him?

00:51:27.965 --> 00:51:45.088
No, he came back out ahead of Antonelli because if I remember it was Max, Oscar, George, Charles, Kimi, Lewis got up into seven, six, then it was Sainz, Lando.

00:51:45.811 --> 00:51:48.253
I that's how that's how it was.

00:51:48.253 --> 00:51:49.023
he came back up.

00:51:49.023 --> 00:51:54.675
So Charles came back out in the position that he came back up that he actually was in at the start.

00:51:54.675 --> 00:52:10.101
So he showed you that he was able to go long and keep such a pace that even Kimi on newer hard tires couldn't close the gap that it would have overtaken him or did he overtake him?

00:52:10.101 --> 00:52:13.233
can't remember, but I'd have to check.

00:52:13.233 --> 00:52:43.273
But Again, he ran, he ran a good race and you know, he got on the podium because again, I want to go into the whole Lander thing, delving the Lander thing too much, but you know, he got that podium because Lander got stuck behind Lewis on that first thing for about two laps where Lewis played, you know, they played the DRS chicken, chicken game, which eventually he came out.

00:52:43.286 --> 00:52:44.467
on top of.

00:52:45.050 --> 00:52:47.103
So, Lando.

00:52:47.349 --> 00:52:50.947
Yeah, after his race engineer told him what to do.

00:52:50.947 --> 00:52:51.807
Yeah.

00:52:52.110 --> 00:52:53.849
So when, hold on.

00:52:53.849 --> 00:52:54.090
Yeah.

00:52:54.090 --> 00:52:57.730
So when Charles pitted before Charles pitted, yeah.

00:52:57.730 --> 00:53:05.489
So when Charles pitted, came back out on lap 30 behind George and he was, and at the start of the race, was, he was in fourth.

00:53:05.489 --> 00:53:11.230
He's never, didn't, lowest he ran was sixth.

00:53:11.409 --> 00:53:12.309
No, no.

00:53:12.570 --> 00:53:12.690
Yeah.

00:53:12.690 --> 00:53:16.670
He's never, he didn't run any run any lower in the race than fourth.

00:53:17.329 --> 00:53:18.849
The entire race.

00:53:18.969 --> 00:53:21.030
Um, was either.

00:53:21.228 --> 00:53:23.559
Yeah, that's how strong his pace was.

00:53:23.619 --> 00:53:35.349
So Lewis held holding them, Lando up for those two laps pretty much gave Charles because I think he Lando finished like one point some seconds behind him.

00:53:35.510 --> 00:53:48.239
Cause he closed, you know, Lando had to close a gap as well past George and then had to chase down, Charles, even though they weren't different tires.

00:53:48.981 --> 00:53:57.409
I believe, Landers tyres were only two laps younger than Charles.

00:53:57.409 --> 00:54:36.556
So, you know hats off to Charles and Ferrari they did a job they did a job this weekend because let's be honest no one thought they would be on the podium we thought the Mercedes would have been on the podium but I think it became it came down to who managed the tyres the best and he did it yeah George his tyres went off in his first state and it went off again in the second state because at one point he was like losing a second or lap to Kimi but I think at that point the race was pretty much over the positions were pretty much decided so he didn't need to you know I was even leaning on Lando, I didn't even mention that.

00:54:36.556 --> 00:54:40.226
It was his race engineer who said, hey man, get it together.

00:54:40.226 --> 00:54:44.286
Yeah, but again, again, I don't people fault him for that as well.

00:54:44.286 --> 00:54:47.998
And I'm like, yeah, we saw we saw Lewis and Max did the same thing.

00:54:47.998 --> 00:54:50.719
We saw Max and Charles did the same thing.

00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:52.409
I believe it was in 2022.

00:54:52.409 --> 00:54:56.260
They had the same in at the same point.

00:54:56.260 --> 00:54:59.231
It's pretty much it's a common thing.

00:54:59.231 --> 00:55:04.353
So I don't even know why people are saying that proves about, you know, lack of racecraft and so on.

00:55:04.353 --> 00:55:10.253
But then it shows that Max doesn't have any racecraft or Lewis doesn't have any racecraft because it happens.

00:55:10.318 --> 00:55:18.838
But yeah, that's what basically got Charles and Ferrari the first podium of the season.

00:55:19.717 --> 00:55:25.438
hopefully, let's see what happens next week and when they're in Miami.

00:55:25.438 --> 00:55:27.818
Because I believe Miami is also a sprint race.

00:55:28.117 --> 00:55:31.197
So it could be interesting.

00:55:31.197 --> 00:55:32.677
Could be interesting.

00:55:33.405 --> 00:55:34.789
Let's see, yeah.

00:55:34.789 --> 00:55:36.791
Kudos, congrats to Charles.

00:55:36.791 --> 00:55:40.398
That was a great drive, Great drive.

00:55:40.398 --> 00:55:43.985
No one had Ferrari on the podium at any point throughout the Nope.

00:55:45.547 --> 00:55:53.277
Based on what we've seen so far this season, I don't think anyone even think they can win a race this year to be honest.

00:55:53.277 --> 00:55:55.168
But let's see what happens.

00:55:55.255 --> 00:55:59.528
So be honest, I'ma move on from this, but this is just my take.

00:56:00.831 --> 00:56:04.472
For Charles to become champion, he's gonna have to move away from Ferrari.

00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.007
Look, bruh, I've been saying it for the last...

00:56:10.637 --> 00:56:12.338
two or three years.

00:56:12.778 --> 00:56:19.902
The thing with Charles and Ferrari, because Charles is a company man, he wants to be a Ferrari lifer, right?

00:56:20.202 --> 00:56:27.485
But I've always said, it's gonna come down to one question, who's gonna get fed up first?

00:56:27.927 --> 00:56:29.708
Charles or Ferrari?

00:56:29.708 --> 00:56:40.724
Because it's gonna be a case of where, Charles is gonna be there and he'll realize, you guys can't even build me a car good enough to sustain the championship.

00:56:40.782 --> 00:56:42.742
What am I doing here?

00:56:42.802 --> 00:56:46.661
He's gonna have to start thinking, okay I have to explore my options elsewhere.

00:56:46.661 --> 00:56:54.302
And there's also the possibility that Ferrari could build in my car to win the championship and he messes it up and Ferrari will be like, yo, okay, cool, you're not that guy.

00:56:54.481 --> 00:56:56.461
So who's gonna get fed up first?

00:56:56.601 --> 00:57:12.731
But right now the way things are, He might have to look outside of Ferrari to win that championship because again, I don't think Ferrari has it in them to build what a championship winning car.

00:57:12.731 --> 00:57:15.653
Luca de Montezemolo came out publicly and said it.

00:57:15.653 --> 00:57:18.556
Me and Kingsley had this back and forth over the spaces.

00:57:18.556 --> 00:57:22.009
He disagrees with me by saying he shouldn't have come out and said it's public.

00:57:22.009 --> 00:57:23.911
I'm like, why shouldn't he say it publicly?

00:57:23.911 --> 00:57:24.842
You know what mean?

00:57:24.842 --> 00:57:30.702
He was the, he was the head of Ferrari.

00:57:30.702 --> 00:57:41.882
during the most successful period since the, was it 2000, the 21st century, 2000, is that the 21st century or we're in the 22nd century now?

00:57:42.862 --> 00:57:47.802
Yeah, since 2000, basically since 2000, he's been the head.

00:57:47.922 --> 00:57:51.942
So he knows what winning culture is.

00:57:51.942 --> 00:57:53.802
And right now he's not seeing that in Ferrari.

00:57:53.802 --> 00:57:59.402
And it's something that we've discussed many times that this team doesn't look like.

00:58:00.269 --> 00:58:10.737
They know how to win a championship and Charles is going to have to make a decision at some point in time because again, explain it to me.

00:58:10.737 --> 00:58:15.380
Why are you going to go with a brand new concept and the finally ever set of recognitions?

00:58:15.659 --> 00:58:21.503
You remember on the space and it's something you said, it's the other, was only thinking about it.

00:58:23.246 --> 00:58:30.126
recently you said that, you know, most people when they build something, they build a life cycle to it.

00:58:30.126 --> 00:58:30.547
Right.

00:58:30.547 --> 00:58:31.208
Yeah.

00:58:31.208 --> 00:58:41.983
And Kingsley said the life cycle for that Ferrari was two years, which means the final year of that life cycle would have been last year.

00:58:42.625 --> 00:58:46.525
So that means then you'd have to come up with a brand new concept for 2025.

00:58:46.956 --> 00:58:47.849
Yeah.

00:58:48.353 --> 00:58:54.003
thinking about it, it proves to me that they're not thinking sensibly.

00:58:54.585 --> 00:58:57.561
Because why would you not build a three-year cycle in it?

00:58:57.561 --> 00:58:59.083
it takes you up to the final year.

00:58:59.083 --> 00:59:09.789
regulations are about to change yeah rather that's where the question came from that's what was I thinking I'm like Why build it exactly why build it something that only last you only have a two year cycle of it.

00:59:09.789 --> 00:59:12.554
Then you're going to have to change the finally of the regulation.

00:59:12.554 --> 00:59:15.197
That means your forecasting was terrible.

00:59:15.447 --> 00:59:20.686
Because at least if you build in two years, at least a third year, you get a real shot.

00:59:20.686 --> 00:59:21.206
Exactly.

00:59:21.206 --> 00:59:24.286
So if it was a three year cycle, you know, okay, year one, year two.

00:59:24.286 --> 00:59:27.525
So when it comes to year three, it's similar to the McLaren.

00:59:27.525 --> 00:59:28.126
You know what mean?

00:59:28.126 --> 00:59:28.621
McLaren.

00:59:28.621 --> 00:59:29.942
2025.

00:59:30.646 --> 00:59:32.188
You'll be bringing in the momentum from 20.

00:59:32.188 --> 00:59:33.490
Exactly.

00:59:34.318 --> 00:59:39.057
You see, if you look at the McLaren, they started in 2022.

00:59:39.597 --> 00:59:41.697
You know, they had a concept.

00:59:42.518 --> 00:59:46.518
They didn't start a 2023 season with that concept, right?

00:59:46.518 --> 00:59:49.318
That came from Austria onwards.

00:59:49.478 --> 01:00:02.382
But then during the winter of 2023, they realized, OK, they have to scrap this concept because they realized it's not going to take them to where they want to.

01:00:02.382 --> 01:00:05.722
So they came up with a brand new concept, right?

01:00:05.722 --> 01:00:14.661
Which took them into 2024, which they only got, they started 20 to 24 late, but not with the car they wanted to start.

01:00:14.702 --> 01:00:16.481
That car came in Miami.

01:00:16.561 --> 01:00:21.981
And that Miami car is what we're seeing, the evolution of it is what we're seeing now.

01:00:21.981 --> 01:00:27.541
So basically, so in 2023, they had a two year cycle in 2023, right?

01:00:27.541 --> 01:00:31.653
But it started 24 and ended in 25.

01:00:31.829 --> 01:00:37.614
So their projection comes in line with when the regulation comes to an end.

01:00:37.614 --> 01:00:42.789
So Ferrari, as you said, if it was a two year cycle, why you didn't go three years?

01:00:42.789 --> 01:00:44.702
Because you know the regulation is going to end.

01:00:44.702 --> 01:00:56.351
And you know the likelihood if you come with a brand new concept going into concept, it's a case of, it's a 50-50 thing of whether you're going to get it right or you're going to get it wrong.

01:00:56.351 --> 01:00:59.173
And right now it looks like they've not gotten it right.

01:00:59.275 --> 01:01:02.632
because you're going to have to learn, you're learning a brand new concept.

01:01:02.742 --> 01:01:05.403
And not only that, even based on the soul.

01:01:05.985 --> 01:01:09.967
So now if they didn't do that, there's another thing that I was looking at.

01:01:10.369 --> 01:01:17.775
And, know, people always call into, call into argument, the Ferrari team engineers.

01:01:17.922 --> 01:01:23.079
And now you got to ask yourself, okay, you went with two when you should have gone with three.

01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:29.625
Is it as a situation, cause we've seen it before where there's, just now to design cars with narrow development windows.

01:01:32.012 --> 01:01:38.434
Look, I don't like talking about Ferrer because you know me, I don't really like him.

01:01:38.434 --> 01:01:53.847
I'm not a big fan of them because again, they've not shown me anything since Schumacher left and since Kimi won his title in 07, that they're capable of building anything that can compete.

01:01:54.068 --> 01:02:01.050
Red Bull went eight years without a championship and they've come back now and they've won three straight.

01:02:02.253 --> 01:02:05.713
with two double included.

01:02:06.074 --> 01:02:07.434
Where's Ferrari?

01:02:08.074 --> 01:02:10.074
Look at, I mean, look at it, bro.

01:02:10.074 --> 01:02:20.353
The last, since they've won the championship in 2008, the teams that have won championship, four teams has won championship.

01:02:20.353 --> 01:02:21.833
They've not won one.

01:02:21.893 --> 01:02:24.713
Braun, Mercedes, is it?

01:02:24.713 --> 01:02:27.673
Braun, Red Bull, Mercedes, Red Bull.

01:02:27.673 --> 01:02:28.873
Where's Ferrari?

01:02:30.434 --> 01:02:32.612
We are f- Where is Ferrari?

01:02:32.693 --> 01:02:38.260
And during the Red Bull time, Red Bull have won championships with two different engine partners.

01:02:38.403 --> 01:02:38.945
you missed out.

01:02:38.945 --> 01:02:40.778
You missed out my clarinet just now.

01:02:42.324 --> 01:02:43.277
That's the four teams.

01:02:43.277 --> 01:02:45.070
Red Bull, Mercedes.

01:02:45.688 --> 01:02:51.322
Braun, Red Bull, Mercedes, Braun, McLaren, yeah, four.

01:02:51.521 --> 01:02:56.284
And during that time, Red Bull has won championships with two different engine manufacturers.

01:02:58.748 --> 01:03:02.130
In two different set of regulations, where's Ferrari?

01:03:04.918 --> 01:03:11.327
And even when they had something that seemed it was competitive, turned out to be that legal aspects to it.

01:03:11.565 --> 01:03:13.346
2019.

01:03:13.677 --> 01:03:15.565
So yeah, day trippin'.

01:03:15.565 --> 01:03:22.206
Yeah, and again, I people banking on them getting it right next to you and I keep asking the question.

01:03:22.206 --> 01:03:26.925
When was the last time Ferrero got a set of regulations right at the start?

01:03:28.846 --> 01:03:36.030
think a lot of Ferrari's issue is their philosophy.

01:03:41.534 --> 01:03:46.378
It's like they want to be Italian through and through, Mm-hmm.

01:03:48.472 --> 01:03:50.902
But sometimes you just got to step out your own way.

01:03:51.704 --> 01:03:52.065
Right.

01:03:52.065 --> 01:03:53.565
If it's not working.

01:03:53.945 --> 01:03:54.246
Right.

01:03:54.246 --> 01:03:55.206
I get it.

01:03:55.547 --> 01:03:57.608
national pride and all this stuff.

01:03:57.608 --> 01:04:03.751
as we mentioned, look over in motor GP now, Honda's has gone to the Italians.

01:04:05.233 --> 01:04:06.655
Yama.

01:04:06.675 --> 01:04:13.659
You know, cause the Japanese realize that, Hey, the Italians, when it comes on to motorcycle now, like prototype.

01:04:14.443 --> 01:04:15.605
is very nice.

01:04:17.184 --> 01:04:18.456
at Ducati.

01:04:19.262 --> 01:04:25.543
The guy at Yamaha now is an Italian guy at Yamaha.

01:04:25.543 --> 01:04:32.126
you're seeing that, again, but we've had this conversation so many times.

01:04:32.126 --> 01:04:34.206
Ferrari's too nationalistic.

01:04:34.206 --> 01:04:39.358
And I've seen other big, other publications pretty much mention the same thing.

01:04:39.358 --> 01:04:41.347
They're too nationalistic.

01:04:41.347 --> 01:04:47.820
And by being based in Italy, the logistics, the logistics is...

01:04:47.864 --> 01:04:58.210
to uproot a whole entire family and move them again, while it might sound exotic or whatever it is, it's still a big culture change.

01:04:59.885 --> 01:05:06.766
So, don't, I, look, I don't know what's wrong with our team.

01:05:06.925 --> 01:05:32.766
And like I said, in my spaces, I've made peace knowing that I will never see Lewis win an eighth championship because the team he has gone to is not one that instills confidence in me that they'll be capable of giving him something that can even compete for a championship over a full race season because When Vettel was there in 2000, Vettel was there.

01:05:32.766 --> 01:05:43.005
The 2018 car pretty much fell apart because the development was, they couldn't really understand what was going on with the development.

01:05:43.005 --> 01:05:54.445
2017, they had a whole, I think it was from, there was a string of races where Vettel just had reliability, Him and Kimi, Malaysia, Japan.

01:05:55.306 --> 01:05:58.166
So Ferrari and the whole, sorry.

01:05:59.757 --> 01:06:01.300
for the max it is, right?

01:06:03.266 --> 01:06:11.228
In the SEB days, you think, barring the mistakes that SEB made, right?

01:06:11.989 --> 01:06:19.532
Do you think if Ferrari had a better development curve throughout that year, SEB would have still won the championship?

01:06:19.532 --> 01:06:24.445
If did, if Ferrari didn't have the development dip as they usually do, as they always have.

01:06:24.445 --> 01:06:55.653
let's be honest Seb didn't lose the championship lead in 2018 until Russia so I mean so and Russia was round hold on let me just check and I tell you what round Russia was 2018 Russia was round 16 right did no he lost in Singapore I believe That was 2017.

01:06:56.574 --> 01:07:02.333
then you look at it like Seb then had issues in Italy.

01:07:02.333 --> 01:07:09.574
Remember the coming together with him and Lewis and he spun around.

01:07:09.733 --> 01:07:12.273
had that issue in Italy.

01:07:12.414 --> 01:07:16.634
Singapore 2018, Lewis did that magical lap.

01:07:16.634 --> 01:07:19.474
Boom, took that weekend that nobody expected.

01:07:19.494 --> 01:07:22.313
Lewis then won Russia.

01:07:23.054 --> 01:07:23.614
Right.

01:07:23.614 --> 01:07:29.954
Well, obviously was a bit team orders that told Bottas to move out of the way and give Lewis, even though Lewis was running second at the time.

01:07:29.954 --> 01:07:33.114
But by winning the race, they gained more points.

01:07:33.574 --> 01:07:45.934
But if you look at that season, Seb's season literally started to fall apart after that issue in And then Ferrari started to have their development issues.

01:07:46.693 --> 01:07:47.713
You know what mean?

01:07:47.753 --> 01:07:50.994
So he could have won a championship.

01:07:50.994 --> 01:07:53.088
Look at the Monte Zemmler said the same thing.

01:07:53.088 --> 01:07:59.989
If said, no, not about Seb said if Lewis was driving that Ferrari, they would have won a championship in one of those two years.

01:08:00.132 --> 01:08:05.681
We're not even going to mention 2019 because we know they just tried, literally tried to cheat into.

01:08:05.710 --> 01:08:07.570
do you have?

01:08:08.706 --> 01:08:09.483
Mmm.

01:08:09.483 --> 01:08:14.474
Because if you think about what you're saying Ferrari is, could Lewis even save them?

01:08:15.096 --> 01:08:21.314
Well, I'd probably say yeah, because I don't think Lois would have made a mistake like it in Germany.

01:08:21.837 --> 01:08:25.742
And I don't think he would have made a mistake like what Seb made in Italy.

01:08:26.864 --> 01:08:27.676
You know what mean?

01:08:27.676 --> 01:08:29.628
I don't...

01:08:29.630 --> 01:08:34.698
You know, and probably Ferrari could have had a worse slump, you know.

01:08:34.931 --> 01:08:45.627
And then, know not only that, remember he then had in Japan, he had a comment, I think he had a comment together with who did he crash with?

01:08:45.627 --> 01:08:49.127
Cause he finished, no he finished on the podium in Japan.

01:08:49.788 --> 01:08:51.721
No, he didn't actually.

01:08:51.721 --> 01:08:52.850
He finished...

01:08:55.064 --> 01:08:56.435
Qualified...

01:08:57.095 --> 01:08:58.676
What did he qualify in Japan?

01:08:58.676 --> 01:09:00.197
He qualified...

01:09:02.338 --> 01:09:04.479
Qualified 9th in Japan.

01:09:04.900 --> 01:09:06.242
I can't remember what happened.

01:09:06.242 --> 01:09:11.505
So from Germany onwards, Seb Season literally fell apart.

01:09:12.034 --> 01:09:18.940
Yeah, but yeah, we know we started talking about Charles and his magnificent podium, but yeah, let's move on.

01:09:18.940 --> 01:09:20.783
Still on Ferrari real quick.

01:09:20.783 --> 01:09:22.222
Hamilton, right?

01:09:22.783 --> 01:09:23.715
What's going on with Hamilton?

01:09:23.715 --> 01:09:25.279
What's going on?

01:09:25.310 --> 01:09:35.710
Yeah, Luis my guy man, but you know, I can understand how we all understand how big of a move this is.

01:09:35.710 --> 01:09:37.650
It's not just moving teams.

01:09:37.712 --> 01:09:38.532
It's moving.

01:09:38.532 --> 01:09:46.519
It's moving to a brand new culture, a brand new operating system, know, brand new power unit.

01:09:46.519 --> 01:09:50.442
He's never driven anything but Mercedes since he's been in Formula One.

01:09:50.510 --> 01:09:51.291
You know what mean?

01:09:51.291 --> 01:10:01.181
So, you know, something I said a while back, Louis closing his eyes, he can tell you every single rev of a Mercedes engine.

01:10:01.643 --> 01:10:04.630
if it, and if, if can.

01:10:04.684 --> 01:10:09.820
Sorry, just to correct, when I said Ferrari, it's not their philosophy, it's their culture is what I'm saying.

01:10:10.082 --> 01:10:10.481
Yeah.

01:10:10.481 --> 01:10:12.184
The culture needs to change.

01:10:12.184 --> 01:10:14.395
So it's a massive change for Lewis.

01:10:14.395 --> 01:10:19.055
He's only driven that car prior to the start of the season, a day and a half.

01:10:19.055 --> 01:10:22.213
That's not enough time to acclimatize himself for the car.

01:10:22.213 --> 01:10:23.077
You know what mean?

01:10:23.077 --> 01:10:30.338
Okay, you can spend all the time you want and learning the various functions of the steering wheel and whatever in the sub menu.

01:10:30.338 --> 01:10:35.180
But the problem is once you get in the car, you start using those settings and so on.

01:10:35.180 --> 01:10:38.301
And you have to learn all these settings affect the car.

01:10:39.033 --> 01:10:40.011
You know what mean?

01:10:40.011 --> 01:10:54.427
Like he said, he mentioned about the engine braking thing that when he was at Mercedes, that was not something that they basically did, which I think they obviously did, but I guess it was programmed into whatever strap mode they use.

01:10:54.427 --> 01:10:59.510
sounded sounds like at Ferrari it's you can adjust it manually.

01:11:00.250 --> 01:11:00.670
Yeah.

01:11:00.670 --> 01:11:04.771
Based on to my interpretation of what you're saying.

01:11:04.771 --> 01:11:09.953
So there's a lot of issues he has to get get on top of, but at the same time.

01:11:09.953 --> 01:11:19.917
It's only, and again, it's only been five races and I think it's unfair for anybody to be saying, you know, after five races, he should be pulling up trees or whatever again.

01:11:20.356 --> 01:11:24.087
That was never going to happen because Charles ain't no sludge.

01:11:24.087 --> 01:11:25.337
You know what mean?

01:11:25.337 --> 01:11:34.020
Obviously, we'd have liked the gap to be much closer, but it's the last race was the biggest it has ever been.

01:11:36.274 --> 01:11:38.162
No, no, no.

01:11:38.162 --> 01:11:38.997
Qualifying gap.

01:11:38.997 --> 01:11:40.262
I mean qualifying.

01:11:41.583 --> 01:11:46.500
I don't take the time gap.

01:11:48.376 --> 01:11:51.908
put much notice on that because again there was a massive tyre offset.

01:11:53.189 --> 01:12:02.395
Yeah in the race because Lewis pitted before Charles so there was a massive tyre offset between them and Charles could then at that point in the race Charles could lean on his car much more.

01:12:02.395 --> 01:12:22.626
Lewis again he was still having issues with that car there was a point where they showed There was a point in the race where they showed Max coming up behind him and they were going around that left-hander that looked like a carousel.

01:12:22.626 --> 01:12:24.926
That slingshots you want to...

01:12:24.926 --> 01:12:31.765
And the overhead and he's like, he's turning in the car and you can see the back of the car, you're stepping on the line.

01:12:31.765 --> 01:12:34.225
And I'm like, yo, the thing won't turn.

01:12:34.225 --> 01:12:36.166
And it's what he's been complaining about.

01:12:36.166 --> 01:12:38.565
The car won't stop and it won't turn.

01:12:38.753 --> 01:12:47.737
You watch his onboard, I've seen, I've spoken about it during watching the practice and like, yo, the car looked lethargic.

01:12:48.198 --> 01:12:51.798
It doesn't want to turn and he complains about it.

01:12:51.798 --> 01:12:52.649
doesn't want to stop.

01:12:52.649 --> 01:12:57.681
And I'm thinking, could the issue of him stopping has be down to the engine breaking?

01:12:57.962 --> 01:13:06.125
Could it be that the engine breaking is affecting it so much that when he actually hits the brake, right, it's still pushing on into the corner.

01:13:06.125 --> 01:13:08.194
It's not slowing down enough for him.

01:13:08.194 --> 01:13:10.376
So the engine brake, what is it not?

01:13:10.376 --> 01:13:11.957
I don't really know.

01:13:11.957 --> 01:13:15.338
I'm not going to go in like some technical guru or anything.

01:13:15.338 --> 01:13:17.461
Is that what's affecting him?

01:13:17.461 --> 01:13:21.193
But whatever it is, it needs to be addressed.

01:13:21.193 --> 01:13:24.664
And I think the team needs to work with him to fix that.

01:13:24.664 --> 01:13:26.667
And they will work with him to fix that.

01:13:26.667 --> 01:13:29.729
And again, I mentioned about the brakes.

01:13:30.168 --> 01:13:32.970
He's used to using carbon industry brakes.

01:13:33.872 --> 01:13:36.974
Ferrari uses Brembo and I believe they'll always use Brembo.

01:13:36.974 --> 01:13:43.974
because I think there's actually, they've been using Brembo's for god knows since Schumacher was there.

01:13:44.134 --> 01:13:48.000
So, and I think that's like a lifelong partnership between.

01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.182
And that's what's on their road cars too.

01:13:50.182 --> 01:13:50.797
Yeah.

01:13:50.797 --> 01:13:55.962
So it seems like there's a lifelong partnership between Ferrari and Brembo.

01:13:55.962 --> 01:14:00.086
like he has a lot to contend with.

01:14:00.086 --> 01:14:04.689
And the good thing about Lewis is he doesn't shy away from it.

01:14:04.689 --> 01:14:08.733
He's going to tell you if he's struggling, he's struggling.

01:14:08.733 --> 01:14:11.604
He's not going to try and sugarcoat it and say, no, I'm not struggling.

01:14:11.604 --> 01:14:14.096
Everything is good at yada yada yada yada.

01:14:14.177 --> 01:14:16.338
But we all can see that you're struggling.

01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:27.109
And I think my thing is Last year I said, when he goes to Ferrari, if the same thing carries on, then we can't say it's the car.

01:14:28.250 --> 01:14:33.953
At some point we're going to have to say, you know what, Lewis, this seems to be a you thing.

01:14:35.173 --> 01:14:35.954
Right.

01:14:35.954 --> 01:14:39.747
And so far it's pointing towards that direction.

01:14:39.747 --> 01:14:46.739
I don't want to go down that direction because I still think, you know, the old Lewis Hamilton is still there.

01:14:46.739 --> 01:14:48.020
He has gone nowhere.

01:14:48.020 --> 01:14:49.634
He still has the pace.

01:14:49.634 --> 01:14:53.448
that he can compete with these guys even over a single app.

01:14:53.677 --> 01:14:57.417
At this point in his career, I'll give him a whole year.

01:15:00.318 --> 01:15:06.658
I'll give him a whole year, so at least he's going to have some say going into next year.

01:15:06.710 --> 01:15:08.893
into the design of next year's car.

01:15:09.069 --> 01:15:24.210
gonna have some say so I'll give him this here and and and would you say that this was no setup though ferrari sign wasn't a setup for the new regs right you know there's so much thing that could go on in the background that we don't know right do mean?

01:15:24.210 --> 01:15:33.128
Set up for the new regs Maybe you remember when you remember I got to Mercedes, remember that conversation with him and Nikki and him.

01:15:33.128 --> 01:15:34.048
Yeah.

01:15:34.869 --> 01:15:42.877
So how do we know that when they approached him, they didn't say this is what we got going on.

01:15:43.630 --> 01:15:47.930
Yeah, obviously I think they might have done that.

01:15:47.930 --> 01:15:49.511
looking at for the new regs, right?

01:15:49.511 --> 01:15:53.114
Even though we just said, well, we don't trust them in the new regs, right?

01:15:53.114 --> 01:15:57.637
But the thing is there's so much secret, secret that goes on.

01:15:57.637 --> 01:15:58.748
You never know, right?

01:15:58.748 --> 01:16:02.921
But I'm just going to say, hey, maybe the whole setup was for the new regs.

01:16:02.921 --> 01:16:04.042
They're going say, look at this.

01:16:04.042 --> 01:16:04.984
This is what we got.

01:16:04.984 --> 01:16:05.864
This is what we think.

01:16:05.864 --> 01:16:08.226
These are the numbers that we're looking at, right?

01:16:08.226 --> 01:16:09.427
For the new regs.

01:16:09.427 --> 01:16:11.068
How about you come over here?

01:16:11.649 --> 01:16:12.510
Right.

01:16:13.675 --> 01:16:22.404
Which is why now, probably like people like Fred Vassero when he gets interviewed, you know, he's just like, whatever, like, just slow.

01:16:22.404 --> 01:16:24.905
We're working diligently to get where we need to be.

01:16:25.146 --> 01:16:32.641
yeah, for our Brandebourg relationship has been around since before you and I were born, It's been around since the seventies.

01:16:32.641 --> 01:16:34.283
Yeah, there you go.

01:16:34.283 --> 01:16:37.182
yeah, so Lewis definitely struggling.

01:16:37.182 --> 01:16:46.905
again, and unlike last year where he's struggling qualifying and then you see him turn up in the race, he's struggling in qualifying under races.

01:16:46.905 --> 01:16:51.488
That's, that's the, that's the more concerning part for me.

01:16:51.707 --> 01:16:58.329
This again, well, this was his probably, this and China was probably his worst race of the season.

01:17:00.792 --> 01:17:04.246
Because Chani lost, this race he didn't gain or lose a position.

01:17:04.246 --> 01:17:06.506
Started seventh, finished seventh.

01:17:07.548 --> 01:17:11.613
Bahrain he started what, sixth or whatever it is.

01:17:11.613 --> 01:17:15.315
He finished behind Charles in fifth.

01:17:16.417 --> 01:17:21.292
That's the closest that they, I believe that's the closest they finished earlier.

01:17:22.028 --> 01:17:23.121
One other thing, right?

01:17:23.121 --> 01:17:29.976
You just touch on it about the way things may work with Ferrari software, engine breaking, all that stuff.

01:17:33.336 --> 01:17:46.331
I see it doing the rounds in socials, hey look what Carlos is doing at Williams, but the thing is, this is why I think that those type of comments are disingenuous and they haven't been thought out well.

01:17:47.152 --> 01:17:53.613
Because maybe when Carlos went over to Mercedes, maybe Mercedes have a more user friendly system.

01:17:54.381 --> 01:17:55.710
And it's not only that.

01:17:55.710 --> 01:18:02.051
I I'm just saying if I'm putting it a basic level, Hey, Carlos Opsen, this is actually easier to use.

01:18:02.051 --> 01:18:02.412
Wow.

01:18:02.412 --> 01:18:04.853
This is, is this how simple this is?

01:18:04.853 --> 01:18:12.314
So maybe the learning curve for the software is all this stuff over immersed isn't as steep as in say a Ferrari, right?

01:18:12.314 --> 01:18:19.617
So you could get situation where Carlos Opsen is literally on top of all of that stuff now and all he's doing is just helping to develop the car, right?

01:18:19.617 --> 01:18:23.021
So a lot of those things aren't.

01:18:23.021 --> 01:18:25.293
thought through well, people just say what they want to say.

01:18:25.293 --> 01:18:46.752
Obviously Yeah again and also said you can't really make that comparison because Carlos drove It's not like Carlos spent his entire career driving one using one sort of engines You know, I mean I saw burndom must have made a comment on sunday that He he cannot understand.

01:18:46.752 --> 01:18:47.332
Hold on.

01:18:47.332 --> 01:18:48.884
Let me see if I can find the tweet.

01:18:48.884 --> 01:18:52.154
He mentioned some Hold on.

01:18:52.154 --> 01:19:29.623
Let me see if I can find saying I struggle to buy into into he doesn't understand the car like okay why like we don't care if you're struggling to buy in it you're you're not louis hamilton you're not a seven-time world champion and if a seven-time world champion is telling you something he has far more experience than you brando listen to the man whether you believe him or not that's that's not your place He's telling you the issue and if you've, know, and you can't turn around and say, but look at Charles.

01:19:29.623 --> 01:19:33.586
Charles has been driving that car since the regs started.

01:19:34.947 --> 01:19:40.208
Charles has more say in the current red arm, this current car than Lewis has.

01:19:40.309 --> 01:19:46.752
Lewis didn't do the, the end of season test in Abu Dhabi last year.

01:19:46.952 --> 01:19:48.212
He didn't do it.

01:19:48.273 --> 01:20:11.149
So the first time Lewis drove an actual I think he did some TPC I believe he did some TPC and then the first time he actually drove his car was when they went when they did I think they did a shade on or whatever it is but Remember you probably have new listeners, you gotta tell them what TPC is.

01:20:11.149 --> 01:20:16.470
Oh, um, Oh God, TPC is like, God, what are the car?

01:20:16.470 --> 01:20:21.670
I can't remember what the previous year's car basically testing previous year cars.

01:20:21.850 --> 01:20:36.310
So you can, you can test the car that's I believe, um, two minimum two years old, two year old car you can test.

01:20:36.510 --> 01:21:14.765
So in last year would have been able to test the 2022 car I believe it was or the 23 yeah he would have been able to test the 2023 car yeah in the TPC I believe it was yeah testing previous cars so again look as I said in one of my spaces I give him until the summer break And if there's no improvement in his performance, I'm probably, I'm going to have to go out there on limb.

01:21:14.765 --> 01:21:23.144
I know the members of T-VanX are going to come for me for saying it that I think the issue is more Lewis rather.

01:21:23.756 --> 01:21:27.145
Is this that I got some more updates coming, right?

01:21:27.713 --> 01:21:40.113
Yeah, they're gonna have upgrades coming because again, it's a brand new concept It'd be foolish if they turn up with a brand new concept and then don't have any upgrades coming for the rest of the season Then you'd be like you guys are really eating mean, I know they got coming, obviously they got coming for the rest of the season.

01:21:40.113 --> 01:21:41.828
When did they announce it's the next one?

01:21:41.828 --> 01:21:43.202
You don't know yet?

01:21:43.202 --> 01:21:47.164
They've not said anything, but I've seen reports saying something like Imola.

01:21:47.164 --> 01:21:50.827
They'll be coming with some bits and pieces for Imola.

01:21:50.827 --> 01:21:55.100
But again, will those bits and pieces help to resolve Lewis's issue?

01:21:55.100 --> 01:22:04.716
Because it seems like he's having the same issue he had at Mercedes in that he does know the car is going to be from one corner to the next.

01:22:05.837 --> 01:22:09.461
So one corner would oversteer by the time he gets to the next corner it understeers.

01:22:09.461 --> 01:22:16.546
And I think, If I'm not mistaken, think they said Lewis doesn't mind a car that overstairs a bit.

01:22:17.405 --> 01:22:29.805
Cause he can handle, you know, if the, if the rear end is solid and he can trust it, he can handle a sliding rear end a bit, but if it's sliding too much, then it's a problem for him.

01:22:29.805 --> 01:22:32.405
And it sounds like, you know, this Ferrari.

01:22:32.405 --> 01:22:36.706
And again, I've heard, I've seen people say he should just trust the car and throw it.

01:22:36.706 --> 01:22:38.966
And I'm like, yo, you're talking about.

01:22:39.405 --> 01:22:46.652
100 miles per hour with walls next to you, can't just talk about throwing it into a corner and trusting.

01:22:46.652 --> 01:22:51.694
If you don't trust your machinery, you won't be able to perform to the best of your ability.

01:22:52.377 --> 01:22:54.398
We saw that with Mark Marquez and the Honda.

01:22:54.398 --> 01:22:57.739
He couldn't trust that shit and it nearly killed him.

01:22:58.942 --> 01:23:00.762
Yeah, and then what happened?

01:23:00.762 --> 01:23:01.663
And what did it do?

01:23:01.663 --> 01:23:02.604
Nearly killed him.

01:23:02.604 --> 01:23:04.525
Nearly ended his career.

01:23:05.047 --> 01:23:09.206
No, that wasn't the race in 2019.

01:23:09.206 --> 01:23:12.332
He trusted that motorcycle, right?

01:23:12.332 --> 01:23:16.930
He just pushed it beyond its limit and But exactly.

01:23:17.171 --> 01:23:25.216
So, so the limit is the limit is what the bike will tell you when the way when you've reached its limit, the car will tell you when it reaches its limit.

01:23:25.216 --> 01:23:32.702
And if if he's pushing it and it gets to a point where the car starts to break away, that's the car telling you, you're at the limit.

01:23:33.002 --> 01:23:34.993
You're going to get any further above this.

01:23:34.993 --> 01:23:36.475
You're going to go into a wall, mate.

01:23:36.475 --> 01:23:38.365
So you're going to have to make a decision.

01:23:38.988 --> 01:23:39.920
Well, amen.

01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:45.390
If motorcycle racists can do it, drivers who's sitting in the projection can send that.

01:23:45.595 --> 01:23:54.606
yeah, but you see you see what happened to those motorcycle racers it nearly ended mark mark his career How many times did he crash on that Honda the last couple of years?

01:23:54.606 --> 01:24:02.734
He was like a he could audition for a crash crash test dummy the way he was crashing thing was launching him.

01:24:02.734 --> 01:24:03.573
Exactly.

01:24:03.573 --> 01:24:05.814
And it's not like he was having minor crashes.

01:24:05.814 --> 01:24:11.793
He was being thrown five, 10 feet up into here and Mark is no more than this.

01:24:11.873 --> 01:24:14.548
My point is there's no such thing as a small crash.

01:24:14.548 --> 01:24:16.092
Everything was spectacular.

01:24:16.092 --> 01:24:16.983
Exactly.

01:24:17.261 --> 01:24:25.641
So again, look, Lewis, everything, everything right now, what we're seeing of Lewis right now is just bonus.

01:24:25.902 --> 01:24:30.282
Cause I genuinely believe this is his last contract in Formula One.

01:24:30.442 --> 01:24:32.181
I think he's going to do the 2026.

01:24:32.181 --> 01:24:34.362
Obviously he's going to do 2026.

01:24:34.402 --> 01:24:36.981
I believe he has a contract till the end of 2027.

01:24:36.981 --> 01:24:40.641
I think after 2027, I don't want to see him in Formula One.

01:24:41.481 --> 01:24:42.622
I don't care what nobody says.

01:24:42.622 --> 01:24:45.561
I don't want to see him in Formula One after 2027.

01:24:45.561 --> 01:24:47.502
I don't want him to do an Alonzo.

01:24:49.030 --> 01:25:05.556
Don't want to just be on the grid for being on the grid sake you have nothing to more to prove to nobody in this sport me just Alright, so as I said, I'm okay with him getting this throwaway year.

01:25:07.380 --> 01:25:13.225
At least he's getting, he's getting to understand the culture there.

01:25:13.827 --> 01:25:15.228
Getting to know, you know what saying?

01:25:15.228 --> 01:25:17.490
So I'm okay with giving him a throwaway year.

01:25:17.490 --> 01:25:20.774
Most people don't, but I'm cool with giving him a throwaway year.

01:25:21.229 --> 01:25:27.989
Yeah, we can live with that because again, they weren't going to win the championship because we pretty much know Ferraris are garbage anyway.

01:25:28.905 --> 01:25:31.579
And yeah, that's it.

01:25:31.579 --> 01:25:34.613
And Lewis, yeah, you just want to rate the race.

01:25:38.809 --> 01:25:40.000
it was not that great.

01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:51.340
It wasn't really that great in terms of, you know, I think it was more for the first lap controversy than anything else.

01:25:51.822 --> 01:25:57.692
All right, so five races gone give me the podium after five races What did I say was number one again?

01:25:58.595 --> 01:26:00.556
What did I have as one?

01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:03.180
Was it Byron?

01:26:05.278 --> 01:26:06.279
remember.

01:26:06.298 --> 01:26:09.713
We're still the same Fiverr, so things are gonna move around.

01:26:09.713 --> 01:26:11.305
It's just whichever.

01:26:11.615 --> 01:26:16.140
Hold on, let me look at the calendar and I'll tell you It's basically what this segment is.

01:26:16.140 --> 01:26:20.948
At the end of the year, it's going to become what three races makes the podium.

01:26:21.259 --> 01:26:22.162
Okay.

01:26:25.101 --> 01:26:26.775
Mmm...

01:26:29.550 --> 01:26:34.010
Okay, I'm gonna go podium still.

01:26:34.810 --> 01:26:35.649
Australia...

01:26:35.649 --> 01:26:36.590
Do I give us...

01:26:36.590 --> 01:26:38.149
I put Australia on the podium?

01:26:43.296 --> 01:26:44.158
I know Japan...

01:26:44.158 --> 01:26:48.957
Okay, Japan and Saudi Arabia don't make the podium.

01:26:51.511 --> 01:26:53.065
So it's going to be between us.

01:26:53.065 --> 01:26:55.893
So Australia, China and Bahrain makes the podium.

01:26:55.893 --> 01:27:01.043
Japan and South Korea.

01:27:03.703 --> 01:27:04.729
Boring.

01:27:05.417 --> 01:27:07.586
the podium is first, second and third.

01:27:07.681 --> 01:27:10.984
Yeah, I think Bahrain is definitely top.

01:27:11.166 --> 01:27:18.592
I said China second and then Australia is more chaotic because of the weather.

01:27:20.015 --> 01:27:27.301
So, okay, I'm gonna go Bahrain, Australia and China.

01:27:28.944 --> 01:27:30.246
That's my three.

01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:33.442
I'll let you keep those.

01:27:33.442 --> 01:27:36.475
I'll let you do the podium stuff.

01:27:37.716 --> 01:27:39.297
Yeah, that's a good podium.

01:27:39.297 --> 01:27:49.827
Because as you see, rolling through the year once the season ends, the podium is going to be the best race of the season if the listeners kind of should have got the gist by now.

01:27:50.349 --> 01:27:56.172
Because races, it's going to come to point where probably none of those races that you just mentioned are even going to be on the podium.

01:27:58.581 --> 01:27:59.681
Definitely.

01:27:59.681 --> 01:28:05.524
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, man, was a next race is what Miami?

01:28:05.524 --> 01:28:06.126
Yep.

01:28:06.126 --> 01:28:14.109
which I believe, let me check, believe Miami's a sprint, I believe Miami might be a sprint race as well.

01:28:15.350 --> 01:28:30.670
So, you know, it's gonna be another toss up, but I still expect the top boys to be the top boys, me, McLaren, Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull, those will still be the teams at the top of the...

01:28:30.670 --> 01:28:33.453
think Orlando is gonna come back to the fort in Miami.

01:28:33.453 --> 01:28:35.613
I mean, he went well there last year.

01:28:35.613 --> 01:28:36.993
He's gone well there.

01:28:36.993 --> 01:28:39.274
I think he went well in 23 as well.

01:28:39.274 --> 01:28:40.014
So.

01:28:40.289 --> 01:28:42.304
So based on history, should be there.

01:28:42.694 --> 01:28:51.061
Yeah, maybe the two-week break was kind of like giving him a chance to reset because again, it was a triple header.

01:28:51.061 --> 01:28:55.695
So maybe you get a chance to reset and get his focus to come back.

01:28:55.695 --> 01:29:03.953
But again, you know, he has to get his head in the game because if he doesn't, Oscar doesn't look like he's about to let up.

01:29:04.427 --> 01:29:05.868
Yep, you look like it's relentless.

01:29:05.868 --> 01:29:06.720
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